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Winners Win; "He has it in him"

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  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    Eason has a strong arm which is why some college programs and most recruiting rating sites got a hard-on for him.

    Unfortunately for them, college football is now trending to more cerebral QBs that can read defenses -- the "stupid one-read and go Dual-Thread QBs" are being left behind. I'm not saying Eason is one of those but his strong arm alone doesn't guarantee success.

    He's a freshman QB playing in the SEC. He was the top rated HS QB in the country and chose Georgia over Washington.

    I predicted/speculated Stanford might knock Browning out and Eason would be able to step in, even surpass Browning's production

    Clearly, Browning exceed my expectations, most of you fuckers, too, if you're honest. He has taken a huge step forward and remained healthy. Had Eason come here, he'd be redshirting.

    What happens, though, if Browning gets injured. Who is the better option to pick up the pieces, Manga Carta or Eason?

    In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history.

    To keep the machine rolling, UW needs a pipeline of developing backups ready to step in for injured or under performing players. UW must win the recruiting battles for the best players in the state.

    I remember Billy Joe. I remember Drew Bledsoe, Cary Conklin, Chris Chandler, and the Huards. Eason has the highest ceiling of all them. Bledsoe had the size and arm strength but was mechanically raw out of HS. Hobart had a big arm and good mobility. He transferred from Orting to Puyallup to run Huard's pro style offense. His Passing IQ was closer to Locker and Lindquist. The separator for Hobart was his big balls. Winners win.

    Eason has struggled. In other moments he has shined. Shit first halfs mixed in with impressive late game heroics, big plays in big moments, something Browning never showed last year, playing in PAC-12 Big plays in crucial moments he didn't show until this year's Arizonas game.

    UW is better now and in the future with Eason even if he wouldnt see the field until Browning leaves.
    UW would be better off if they had signed the #1 QB recruit in the cuntry?

    Courageous take right there. I don't remember anyone arguing we shouldn't sign him. I do remember people arguing he was better than Browning. Those people were wrong.
    Several here said he was overated and UW didn't need him. Browning has been great, arguably one of the top QBs in the country. So far he's proved me wrong.

    Eason has elite talent. Peterman and his staff are showing they can develop players. If UW continues getting quality line play and strong defenses, Eason becomes less important. It's hard not to wonder what Peterman could do with Eason.

    Pray Browning stays healthy and hope there is a quality replacement in place when he leaves.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Eason is shit. He didn't have the confidence to compete here. Fuck that guy.
  • Ice_HolmvikIce_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912

    "In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history."


    So youre pumping up Eason by saying that a 3rd year QB named Hobart is the same as a true freshman named Eason. Jesus Christ. BTW Eason wouldnt come in and wait 3 years behind Browning to play like you say Hobart did.. He would have transferred.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,879 Swaye's Wigwam
    Eason is Browne is Heaps
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367


    "In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history."


    So youre pumping up Eason by saying that a 3rd year QB named Hobart is the same as a true freshman named Eason. Jesus Christ. BTW Eason wouldnt come in and wait 3 years behind Browning to play like you say Hobart did.. He would have transferred.

    Fuck off Spooge.

    UW closest quality QB prospect behind Browning is a HS junior. Carta Samuels and Tony Gonzalez are strictly bench material. Ronnie Fouch. Johnny Durocher. Jeff Lindquist. Hobart stayed when Brunnell won the job and looked like he wouldn't start until his junior high until Brunnell got hurt. Damon Huard, like him or not committed in 91 knowing he'd likely sit for two years before Hobart was scheduled to leave.

    Doogish: Eason originally committed to Georgia when Myles was UWs QB, well before Browning established himself at Washington (Hi Kim) If Eason didn't want to compete against Myles and Lindquist, than yeah, he is a pussy.

    Great coaches and great programs attract and sign the best prospects. So,Hobart waited. Damon Huard, like him or not was the highest rated QB nationally when he committed with Hobart and Brunnell in front of him. He waited.

    Top QBs aren't afraid to go to Alabama, Ohio State, USC. Most wash out and end up transferring. Who cares. The good ones stay. The Blake Barnetts and Max Brownes transfer.

    Our backups were all Peterman's 4th, sometimes 5th choice. Were fucked if they have to play a meaningful role.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    Baseman said:


    "In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history."


    So youre pumping up Eason by saying that a 3rd year QB named Hobart is the same as a true freshman named Eason. Jesus Christ. BTW Eason wouldnt come in and wait 3 years behind Browning to play like you say Hobart did.. He would have transferred.

    Fuck off Spooge.

    UW closest quality QB prospect behind Browning is a HS junior. Carta Samuels and Tony Gonzalez are strictly bench material. Ronnie Fouch. Johnny Durocher. Jeff Lindquist. Hobart stayed when Brunnell won the job and looked like he wouldn't start until his junior high until Brunnell got hurt. Damon Huard, like him or not committed in 91 knowing he'd likely sit for two years before Hobart was scheduled to leave.

    Doogish: Eason originally committed to Georgia when Myles was UWs QB, well before Browning established himself at Washington (Hi Kim) If Eason didn't want to compete against Myles and Lindquist, than yeah, he is a pussy.

    Great coaches and great programs attract and sign the best prospects. So,Hobart waited. Damon Huard, like him or not was the highest rated QB nationally when he committed with Hobart and Brunnell in front of him. He waited.

    Top QBs aren't afraid to go to Alabama, Ohio State, USC. Most wash out and end up transferring. Who cares. The good ones stay. The Blake Barnetts and Max Brownes transfer.

    Our backups were all Peterman's 4th, sometimes 5th choice. Were fucked if they have to play a meaningful role.
    Disagree on Kijana Carta Samuels. He looked like shit last year but he's looked much better (obviously in garbage time) this season. UW wouldn't have the best QB in the conference anymore if Browning got hurt, but I believe KJCS is capable of keeping us winning.

    Player development is a trip.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Baseman said:


    "In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history."


    So youre pumping up Eason by saying that a 3rd year QB named Hobart is the same as a true freshman named Eason. Jesus Christ. BTW Eason wouldnt come in and wait 3 years behind Browning to play like you say Hobart did.. He would have transferred.

    Fuck off Spooge.

    UW closest quality QB prospect behind Browning is a HS junior. Carta Samuels and Tony Gonzalez are strictly bench material. Ronnie Fouch. Johnny Durocher. Jeff Lindquist. Hobart stayed when Brunnell won the job and looked like he wouldn't start until his junior high until Brunnell got hurt. Damon Huard, like him or not committed in 91 knowing he'd likely sit for two years before Hobart was scheduled to leave.

    Doogish: Eason originally committed to Georgia when Myles was UWs QB, well before Browning established himself at Washington (Hi Kim) If Eason didn't want to compete against Myles and Lindquist, than yeah, he is a pussy.

    Great coaches and great programs attract and sign the best prospects. So,Hobart waited. Damon Huard, like him or not was the highest rated QB nationally when he committed with Hobart and Brunnell in front of him. He waited.

    Top QBs aren't afraid to go to Alabama, Ohio State, USC. Most wash out and end up transferring. Who cares. The good ones stay. The Blake Barnetts and Max Brownes transfer.

    Our backups were all Peterman's 4th, sometimes 5th choice. Were fucked if they have to play a meaningful role.
    GREAT coaches, Great programs, Kirby Smart

    Which one doesn't belong with Georgia?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,802 Founders Club
    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap

    Disagree. Comparing their freshman years, Eason has better tools, plays in a better league and performed well in critical, late game situations.

    Clearly, Browning is currently the more effective of the two.

    There's a big drop off from Browning to Samuels and Gonzalez. They're not QBs Peterman can plug in and beat a top ranked team IMO.

    I agree coaches that look to their QBs as saviors are doomed to fail but to ignore a clear talent gap is foolish.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:


    "In 89, Billy Joe Hobart,the Gatorade state player of the year and highest rated QB in the nation, committed to Washington. Hobart redshirted in 89 and was second string in '90 as Mark Brunnell had a lock on the job. Everything looked great going into 91 until Brunnell blew his knee out. Hobart stepped in and the rest was history."


    So youre pumping up Eason by saying that a 3rd year QB named Hobart is the same as a true freshman named Eason. Jesus Christ. BTW Eason wouldnt come in and wait 3 years behind Browning to play like you say Hobart did.. He would have transferred.

    Fuck off Spooge.

    UW closest quality QB prospect behind Browning is a HS junior. Carta Samuels and Tony Gonzalez are strictly bench material. Ronnie Fouch. Johnny Durocher. Jeff Lindquist. Hobart stayed when Brunnell won the job and looked like he wouldn't start until his junior high until Brunnell got hurt. Damon Huard, like him or not committed in 91 knowing he'd likely sit for two years before Hobart was scheduled to leave.

    Doogish: Eason originally committed to Georgia when Myles was UWs QB, well before Browning established himself at Washington (Hi Kim) If Eason didn't want to compete against Myles and Lindquist, than yeah, he is a pussy.

    Great coaches and great programs attract and sign the best prospects. So,Hobart waited. Damon Huard, like him or not was the highest rated QB nationally when he committed with Hobart and Brunnell in front of him. He waited.

    Top QBs aren't afraid to go to Alabama, Ohio State, USC. Most wash out and end up transferring. Who cares. The good ones stay. The Blake Barnetts and Max Brownes transfer.

    Our backups were all Peterman's 4th, sometimes 5th choice. Were fucked if they have to play a meaningful role.
    Disagree on Kijana Carta Samuels. He looked like shit last year but he's looked much better (obviously in garbage time) this season. UW wouldn't have the best QB in the conference anymore if Browning got hurt, but I believe KJCS is capable of keeping us winning.

    Player development is a trip.
    Thanks for the shoutout to #MyKJ
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Browning = productive leader

    Eason = attention whore
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789

    Baseman said:

    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap

    Disagree. Comparing their freshman years, Eason has better tools, plays in a better league and performed well in critical, late game situations.

    Clearly, Browning is currently the more effective of the two.

    There's a big drop off from Browning to Samuels and Gonzalez. They're not QBs Peterman can plug in and beat a top ranked team IMO.

    I agree coaches that look to their QBs as saviors are doomed to fail but to ignore a clear talent gap is foolish.
    L O freaking L.

    Your original argument was that it doesn't matter that Eason isn't playing that great he has an unquantifiable "it" that makes him a winner.

    Now that he has lost three out of four I don't see anything from you about WINNERS WINNING. Now he apparently "performs well" and comes up short despite his valiant efforts.

    The thing is he was never playing well even when his team was winning. I pointed out that his defense was winning games in spite of his shit play and he wasn't likely to continue getting lucky to pull games out against better teams. What do you know the chickens have come home to roost.
    hr, yk
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,802 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap

    Disagree. Browning was much better as a freshman.

    If Browning played like Eason did as a frosh we'd never questioned his clutchness because we wouldn't have had any close games for him to blow at the end. Frosh Browning was far more accurate, from the beginning.

    Eason's ceiling is still sky high, but he's worse than Browning as a frosh and he's sure as hell gonna be worse than Browning as a sophomore. He's gonna have a lot of catching up to do if he's gonna pass Jake.
    Eason has won a couple close ones at the end as a freshman
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789

    dnc said:

    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap

    Disagree. Browning was much better as a freshman.

    If Browning played like Eason did as a frosh we'd never questioned his clutchness because we wouldn't have had any close games for him to blow at the end. Frosh Browning was far more accurate, from the beginning.

    Eason's ceiling is still sky high, but he's worse than Browning as a frosh and he's sure as hell gonna be worse than Browning as a sophomore. He's gonna have a lot of catching up to do if he's gonna pass Jake.
    Eason has won a couple close ones at the end as a freshman
    Yes I get that.

    Plug his performance into 2015 UW and the close ones Jake lost at the end wouldn't have been close enough for Eason to win at the end. The whole game matters, not just the last few minutes.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,802 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    If you compare freshman Eason to freshman Browning there is not a big gap

    Disagree. Browning was much better as a freshman.

    If Browning played like Eason did as a frosh we'd never questioned his clutchness because we wouldn't have had any close games for him to blow at the end. Frosh Browning was far more accurate, from the beginning.

    Eason's ceiling is still sky high, but he's worse than Browning as a frosh and he's sure as hell gonna be worse than Browning as a sophomore. He's gonna have a lot of catching up to do if he's gonna pass Jake.
    Eason has won a couple close ones at the end as a freshman
    Yes I get that.

    Plug his performance into 2015 UW and the close ones Jake lost at the end wouldn't have been close enough for Eason to win at the end. The whole game matters, not just the last few minutes.
    That doesn't make any sense. Jake sucked the whole game too. He didn't lose shoot outs
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