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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Baphomet said:

    For some reason I'm just not concerned about Arizona at all.

    I hope the coaches are. I'm not convinced our passing game is going to be all that great against Pac 12 caliber DBs, and even though we finally broke 200 yards rushing, it was against Portland Fucking State.
    Arizona doesn't have Pac 12 caliber DBs...or LBs...or DL...
    Based on?
    Three members of their DL rotation including two DTs are listed under 250 lbs...one is a former walk-on. They basically never get any sacks or even pressure from this unit. In their old 3-3-5 scheme the DL was basically just supposed to occupy blockers while Scooby Wright and the other LBs and Safeties flew around the field (it didn't work they fired nearly their entire D staff.) The DTs had two tackles against Hawaii and nobody on the DL had a sack.

    The LBs have experience but are all either a. slow b. small or c. both. One of them is Michael Barton who couldn't see the field at Cal. If you can't play on Cal's D you are not Pac-12 caliber. Cody Ippollito is basically a slower and fatter Cort Dennison. Paul Magloire and DeAndre Miller are actually pretty good.

    At safety you have Tellas Jones and a bunch of lightly recruited underclassmen who don't have any experience. Jones was injured against BYU and hasn't played since.

    At corner you do have some experience- experience getting routinely roasted by Pac-12 WRs. DaVonte Neal is very athletic but can't play corner. McCall won't be able to keep up with Chico or Ross.
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303

    This is complete bullshit. If we played in the SEC, we're not dropping down to #9 in the AP

    Michigan State and Louisville beat actual football teams.

    Hope this helps.
    Saw the Michael Yam tweet this AM. Tee hee hee! Gotcha
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    This is complete bullshit. If we played in the SEC, we're not dropping down to #9 in the AP

    Michigan State and Louisville beat actual football teams.

    Hope this helps.
    Saw the Michael Yam tweet this AM. Tee hee hee! Gotcha
    image
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    This is complete bullshit. If we played in the SEC, we're not dropping down to #9 in the AP

    We are ranked above TAMU and Georgia. Both of which are undefeated and beat actual teams.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    This is complete bullshit. If we played in the SEC, we're not dropping down to #9 in the AP

    We are ranked above TAMU and Georgia. Both of which are undefeated and beat actual teams.
    Whooooooosh
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    edited September 2016

    This fiction that we don't have any information about UW because we haven't played anyone is ridiculous.

    That isn't the message, at least from me. Even earlier in this thread I think we've shown we can beat Arizona rather easily, say 34-17 (actually, I think easier than that). We have not proven that we are a top 10 team though. Sure, some others who are currently potentially ranked too high have struggled against lower tier competition, and we haven't. That is good for us, but beating up on patsies really isn't the same as hanging with the big boys. Once we do that then we will have arrived. It is clear we are not complete dreck based on what we've done so far. That is good, but insufficient.

    Edit: It is also worth noting that in a retrospective maybe things will be more clear on where we are today based on the results we have today. Maybe Rutgers will turn out to be a better team than we realized and beating them down was very meaningful. In the meantime they are unproven. Uncertainty is uncertainty. It does not mean we are good and it does not mean we are bad. We may be good but that is uncertain.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Mad_Son said:

    This fiction that we don't have any information about UW because we haven't played anyone is ridiculous.

    That isn't the message, at least from me. Even earlier in this thread I think we've shown we can beat Arizona rather easily, say 34-17 (actually, I think easier than that). We have not proven that we are a top 10 team though. Sure, some others who are currently potentially ranked too high have struggled against lower tier competition, and we haven't. That is good for us, but beating up on patsies really isn't the same as hanging with the big boys. Once we do that then we will have arrived. It is clear we are not complete dreck based on what we've done so far. That is good, but insufficient.
    That part was addressed at the hive mind not you in particular. I didn't feel like multi-quoting, apologies. I think I agree with you other than the "proving" it part as nothing is proven in polls until the end of the season.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    For some reason I'm just not concerned about Arizona at all.

    This team has not proven it can hang with the best, but Arizona is far from the best. I don't think we'll have any trouble with them.
    As an undefeated team, we have not beat a mid-tier team on the road since '01.
    What makes a team mid-tier? I get there have been cultural issues that have perpetuated a dearth of mental fortitude, just want to understand where that statistic comes from.
    A team that finished in the upper half of the Pac-12 or a team like BYU that isn't great, but doesn't suck. I mean, it was a subjective judgment... for instance, I don't count beating a shit tier SYR team on the road when that team went on to get blasted in their own conference. Actually, I had the year wrong. It was '98 the last time we beat a decent team on the road as an undefeated (the Reggie Davis play).

    The thing I'm fascinated by is ON THIS BORED, where everyone knows we shit the bed constantly, people are too stupid to recognize that the problem is more than just losing to TOP TIER TEAMS.

    The problem is getting beat on the road like a drum by every team we play.

    EVEN IF we lose to Stanford and Oregon, beating Zona on the road as an undefeated team would be a big step forward and something we haven't done in a long time.

    The reason why it's important that we do it while we are undefeated is that it's a sign that we are dealing with expectations. Every time we go on the road and have any sort of expectations (save beating dog shit like HAW, SYR and ILL) we fold.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,616 Standard Supporter
    Arizona just doesn't have the talent like F Troll said in detail. RichRod always take 28 man recruiting classes, and most of them are two and three stars. I don't follow them as closely anymore but they struggled against a 1-2 BYU team. They're a 6-6 team...a team that a contender should take care of....
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    If the Huskies are for real, they'll roll Arizona and play both Stanford and Oregon straight up. I'm not yet confident that will happen.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    edited September 2016
    Passion said:

    UW went down on somebody's poll? Are you sure?

    image

    Chincredibled for coming from Mr. PC himself.





    Ironically, I recently went looking for the camel jockey photo (monkey riding a camel) that SLBOB posted that sent you into epic blathering retard-rage. Unfortunately for us, it's lost to the interwebs forever. Not a lot of us left that were around for that meltdown. Circa '03-'04?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    If the Huskies are for real, they'll roll Arizona and beat Stanford and Oregon. I'm not yet confident that will happen.

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    I don't know if we are "for real" yet. I don't really care. But I know this—we haven't won a game like the one we have this Saturday in a decade, plus.

    If we dispatch AZ, beat UT and SC and still lose to STAN & OR, I will feel like Pete has done a good job. We will be in territory we haven't been in in forever.

    10-2/3 this year is a record that deserves praise. 8 and anything should be DAO and 9 is really going to depend.

    The point remains, whether this SHOULD be an easy or hard game is immaterial. This is the type of game we haven't won in years and years, because any time we get some momentum and go on the road, we shit ourselves.

    Simply not doing that would be a serious step forward.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I don't know if we are "for real" yet. I don't really care. But I know this—we haven't won a game like the one we have this Saturday in a decade, plus.

    If we dispatch AZ, beat UT and SC and still lose to STAN & OR, I will feel like Pete has done a good job. We will be in territory we haven't been in in forever.

    10-2/3 this year is a record that deserves praise. 8 and anything should be DAO and 9 is really going to depend.

    The point remains, whether this SHOULD be an easy or hard game is immaterial. This is the type of game we haven't won in years and years, because any time we get some momentum and go on the road, we shit ourselves.

    Simply not doing that would be a serious step forward.

    If we? lose to Stanford and Oregon, the season will be over in early October as always.

    Die.
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,643
    Haven't you heard? We haven't played anyone yet. Haven't you heard! We haven't played anyone yet. Haven't you heard? We haven't played anyone yet.

    I'm trying to disguise myself as a broken record, that's what you get for clicking on any UW topic.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,201

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    For some reason I'm just not concerned about Arizona at all.

    This team has not proven it can hang with the best, but Arizona is far from the best. I don't think we'll have any trouble with them.
    As an undefeated team, we have not beat a mid-tier team on the road since '01.
    What makes a team mid-tier? I get there have been cultural issues that have perpetuated a dearth of mental fortitude, just want to understand where that statistic comes from.
    EVEN IF we lose to Stanford and Oregon, beating Zona on the road as an undefeated team would be a big step forward and something we haven't done in a long time.

    No it wouldnt. If Arizona was good this year it would be, but they aren't. Same with ASU.

    With our talent, led by one of the best hs QB's of all time, we need to win the conference.

    No more excuses, no more bullshit, win the fucking games. We will probably drop one to Stanford or Oregon. Fine. Make the Rose Bowl.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Haven't you heard? We haven't played anyone yet. Haven't you heard! We haven't played anyone yet. Haven't you heard? We haven't played anyone yet.

    I'm trying to disguise myself as a broken record, that's what you get for clicking on any UW topic.

    Thanks for reading! ;)
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,643

    Side note: our band uniforms are fucking terrible. They look like the biggest fucking nerds ever with the polo tucked into khakis look. Which they probably are (hi @MelloDawg), but Jesus...Ohio State's looks badass in their military garb. Texas rocks the whole southern cowboy thing.

    We just look like some retarded comcast call center

    It doesn't help when tv cameras catch them all acting like neeeeeeeerds. Act like you've been to a school dance UW band.
  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    Just assume everyone is going to beat us until we beat them. This is uw football. High aspirations, low expectations.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,848

    Side note: our band uniforms are fucking terrible. They look like the biggest fucking nerds ever with the polo tucked into khakis look. Which they probably are (hi @MelloDawg), but Jesus...Ohio State's looks badass in their military garb. Texas rocks the whole southern cowboy thing.

    We just look like some retarded comcast call center

    All the Big-10 uniforms are badass because they actually put money into their band's look. Even with the HMB being funded by the AD, they still look like goofs with the polo/khaki/white shoe look.

    My fav was always the USC band. Knew 3 songs but they had the "fuck you" attitude I wish we had
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,377
    edited September 2016



    This is the best argument against college football polls before October that I have ever read.

    i would think that espn could find some fucking way to make money on that. get amway to sponsor some "pole explosion special" or something. similar to what they do with the playoff rankings but by that time, people already know where teams are going to be seeded.

    either espn has thought about this and decided they cant make money or theyre john skipper fucking stupid.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    I know you guys are being sarcastic, but those aren't our band uniforms.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135

    Baphomet said:

    For some reason I'm just not concerned about Arizona at all.

    I hope the coaches are. I'm not convinced our passing game is going to be all that great against Pac 12 caliber DBs, and even though we finally broke 200 yards rushing, it was against Portland Fucking State.
    Arizona doesn't have Pac 12 caliber DBs...or LBs...or DL...
    Based on?
    Three members of their DL rotation including two DTs are listed under 250 lbs...one is a former walk-on. They basically never get any sacks or even pressure from this unit. In their old 3-3-5 scheme the DL was basically just supposed to occupy blockers while Scooby Wright and the other LBs and Safeties flew around the field (it didn't work they fired nearly their entire D staff.) The DTs had two tackles against Hawaii and nobody on the DL had a sack.

    The LBs have experience but are all either a. slow b. small or c. both. One of them is Michael Barton who couldn't see the field at Cal. If you can't play on Cal's D you are not Pac-12 caliber. Cody Ippollito is basically a slower and fatter Cort Dennison. Paul Magloire and DeAndre Miller are actually pretty good.

    At safety you have Tellas Jones and a bunch of lightly recruited underclassmen who don't have any experience. Jones was injured against BYU and hasn't played since.

    At corner you do have some experience- experience getting routinely roasted by Pac-12 WRs. DaVonte Neal is very athletic but can't play corner. McCall won't be able to keep up with Chico or Ross.
    Flagged for knowing so much about Arizona.
    Flagged because you hurt my feelings.
    Lol I used to be just as bad. Now I feel cool because I made the freshman basketball team while you guys are still playing D&D.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    MelloDawg said:

    Side note: our band uniforms are fucking terrible. They look like the biggest fucking nerds ever with the polo tucked into khakis look. Which they probably are (hi @MelloDawg), but Jesus...Ohio State's looks badass in their military garb. Texas rocks the whole southern cowboy thing.

    We just look like some retarded comcast call center

    All the Big-10 uniforms are badass because they actually put money into their band's look. Even with the HMB being funded by the AD, they still look like goofs with the polo/khaki/white shoe look.

    My fav was always the USC band. Knew 3 songs but they had the "fuck you" attitude I wish we had
    Sounds old, rich and white.