Why Tequilla should be permabanned (deserves own thread)
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At the end of the day at that point it is what it is
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Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season. -
Oregon was actively trying to have that great streak. That's why they fired Bellotti and hired Chip.
You would have been there at that point saying at that point that at that point Oregon should keep Bellotti at that point -
Adjust our winning percentage for FCS and D3 caliber programs Mr. MBATequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
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Losers count the scrimmages.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season. -
Sven's dead. Now I think it's time you retire your other handle, or just retire in general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Losers count the scrimmages.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
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From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on. -
None of this context matters. You predicted we? were about to own the northwest one year before we? went owen12. Nothing going on at that point in Oregon matters, the prediction doesn't look ridiculous because Chip, it looks ridiculous because Ty.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
We've all made ridiculous predictions at some poont. I once bought in to Samek's 12-0 in 2002. Last year I predicted Kijana Carter Samuels would be the starting QB. There's a doog in all of us. You're much better off just owning it and laughing at yourself. Trying to explain and justify it is just doubling down on it.
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1) I was never a fan of Tyrone ... I can't say that enough ... as I said, I thought that at best he'd get the program in a position where the leap could take place with the next coach. I'd seen enough of him at Stanford and Notre Dame to see that he wasn't an elite coach.Baseman said:
From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on.
2) I'm not downplaying Oregon's 2008-2014 run ... what I'm saying is that if after the 2007 season, or even during the early portions of the 2008 season, if I would have told you that over the next 7 years Oregon would win 80 games and play for 2 National Championships, you would have said that I was crazy.
3) If you want to draw any parallels to those comments and this year's UW, it would be that all of this talk about how UW can't do this and that because the program has been losers for the last 15 years is BS. Things that were happening in 2004 have no impact on this team IMO ... the Freshman on this team were 5-6 years old then. All that matters is what they do on the field this year. I'll at least buy some of the stuff that happened last year as reason to pull the "I'll wait until they prove it." But anything that was tied to this team before these players/staff were part of it is absolute BS.
