Why Tequilla should be permabanned (deserves own thread)
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At the end of the day at that point it is what it is
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Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season. -
Oregon was actively trying to have that great streak. That's why they fired Bellotti and hired Chip.
You would have been there at that point saying at that point that at that point Oregon should keep Bellotti at that point -
Adjust our winning percentage for FCS and D3 caliber programs Mr. MBATequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
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Losers count the scrimmages.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season. -
Sven's dead. Now I think it's time you retire your other handle, or just retire in general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Losers count the scrimmages.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
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From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on. -
None of this context matters. You predicted we? were about to own the northwest one year before we? went owen12. Nothing going on at that point in Oregon matters, the prediction doesn't look ridiculous because Chip, it looks ridiculous because Ty.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
We've all made ridiculous predictions at some poont. I once bought in to Samek's 12-0 in 2002. Last year I predicted Kijana Carter Samuels would be the starting QB. There's a doog in all of us. You're much better off just owning it and laughing at yourself. Trying to explain and justify it is just doubling down on it.
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1) I was never a fan of Tyrone ... I can't say that enough ... as I said, I thought that at best he'd get the program in a position where the leap could take place with the next coach. I'd seen enough of him at Stanford and Notre Dame to see that he wasn't an elite coach.Baseman said:
From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on.
2) I'm not downplaying Oregon's 2008-2014 run ... what I'm saying is that if after the 2007 season, or even during the early portions of the 2008 season, if I would have told you that over the next 7 years Oregon would win 80 games and play for 2 National Championships, you would have said that I was crazy.
3) If you want to draw any parallels to those comments and this year's UW, it would be that all of this talk about how UW can't do this and that because the program has been losers for the last 15 years is BS. Things that were happening in 2004 have no impact on this team IMO ... the Freshman on this team were 5-6 years old then. All that matters is what they do on the field this year. I'll at least buy some of the stuff that happened last year as reason to pull the "I'll wait until they prove it." But anything that was tied to this team before these players/staff were part of it is absolute BS. -
I voted you up because you have balls.Tequilla said:
1) I was never a fan of Tyrone ... I can't say that enough ... as I said, I thought that at best he'd get the program in a position where the leap could take place with the next coach. I'd seen enough of him at Stanford and Notre Dame to see that he wasn't an elite coach.Baseman said:
From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on.
2) I'm not downplaying Oregon's 2008-2014 run ... what I'm saying is that if after the 2007 season, or even during the early portions of the 2008 season, if I would have told you that over the next 7 years Oregon would win 80 games and play for 2 National Championships, you would have said that I was crazy.
3) If you want to draw any parallels to those comments and this year's UW, it would be that all of this talk about how UW can't do this and that because the program has been losers for the last 15 years is BS. Things that were happening in 2004 have no impact on this team IMO ... the Freshman on this team were 5-6 years old then. All that matters is what they do on the field this year. I'll at least buy some of the stuff that happened last year as reason to pull the "I'll wait until they prove it." But anything that was tied to this team before these players/staff were part of it is absolute BS.
Here is the deal: Washington has sucked for the better part of two decades. If your team has a down year or two, it's ok to point to upticks in recruiting or even metrics suggesting the team was better than their record. When you suck for as long as UW? Not so much.
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I'm not doubling down on the prediction ... I'm explaining that the trends that I was seeing was suggesting that Oregon was heading back to mediocrity. I absolutely missed on how far Tyrone took the program down ... I was expecting that he'd leave the program basically where Sark did ... I'll own that. What I'm not going to own (because I've never been one that thought he'd ever get this program back to competing for conference championships) is this idea that I was dooging for Tyrone. That was never the case.
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CHRISTTequilla said:I'm not doubling down on the prediction ... I'm explaining that the trends that I was seeing was suggesting that Oregon was heading back to mediocrity. I absolutely missed on how far Tyrone took the program down ... I was expecting that he'd leave the program basically where Sark did ... I'll own that. What I'm not going to own (because I've never been one that thought he'd ever get this program back to competing for conference championships) is this idea that I was dooging for Tyrone. That was never the case.
You thought Ty would somehow get Washington above Oregon even after everyone with half a brain knew he needed to be fired.
Go back to Doogman where you clearly belong. -
Counting is hard.dnc said:
"It was not unreasonable at that point to conclude that Mike Belotti had peaked as a coach at that point (which turned out to be true as he was out after the 2008 season). What wasn't known at that point was that they would stumble into Chip Kelly who was basically an unknown at that point."CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
At that point used three times in one paragraph.
What part of the fourth at that point didn't you understand? -
I laffedRaceBannon said:Oregon was actively trying to have that great streak. That's why they fired Bellotti and hired Chip.
You would have been there at that point saying at that point that at that point Oregon should keep Bellotti at that point -
Do they not teach about fucking culture in TCU's MBA program? Peterman might be the guy to turn around the culture at UW but it's been a fucking loser mentality culture at the highest levels since before Don James retired.Tequilla said:
1) I was never a fan of Tyrone ... I can't say that enough ... as I said, I thought that at best he'd get the program in a position where the leap could take place with the next coach. I'd seen enough of him at Stanford and Notre Dame to see that he wasn't an elite coach.Baseman said:
From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on.
2) I'm not downplaying Oregon's 2008-2014 run ... what I'm saying is that if after the 2007 season, or even during the early portions of the 2008 season, if I would have told you that over the next 7 years Oregon would win 80 games and play for 2 National Championships, you would have said that I was crazy.
3) If you want to draw any parallels to those comments and this year's UW, it would be that all of this talk about how UW can't do this and that because the program has been losers for the last 15 years is BS. Things that were happening in 2004 have no impact on this team IMO ... the Freshman on this team were 5-6 years old then. All that matters is what they do on the field this year. I'll at least buy some of the stuff that happened last year as reason to pull the "I'll wait until they prove it." But anything that was tied to this team before these players/staff were part of it is absolute BS. -
Please. Just. Stop.Tequilla said:I'm not doubling down on the prediction ... I'm explaining that the trends that I was seeing was suggesting that Oregon was heading back to mediocrity. I absolutely missed on how far Tyrone took the program down ... I was expecting that he'd leave the program basically where Sark did ... I'll own that. What I'm not going to own (because I've never been one that thought he'd ever get this program back to competing for conference championships) is this idea that I was dooging for Tyrone. That was never the case.
If you have to explain what you were explaining, you've already lost. -
I support fucking cultureCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Do they not teach about fucking culture in TCU's MBA program? Peterman might be the guy to turn around the culture at UW but it's been a fucking loser mentality culture at the highest levels since before Don James retired.Tequilla said:
1) I was never a fan of Tyrone ... I can't say that enough ... as I said, I thought that at best he'd get the program in a position where the leap could take place with the next coach. I'd seen enough of him at Stanford and Notre Dame to see that he wasn't an elite coach.Baseman said:
From 2008-2014, I saw Oregon go 80-14. It was no mirage when they went 55-8 in conference. Even Grandpa Sankey watched their two appearances in the NC game.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season.
I'm hearing Auburndoog now concedes UW didn't dominate the Pac-North during the same period.
Other than that and your love of Tyrone, I'd say you were and are spot on.
2) I'm not downplaying Oregon's 2008-2014 run ... what I'm saying is that if after the 2007 season, or even during the early portions of the 2008 season, if I would have told you that over the next 7 years Oregon would win 80 games and play for 2 National Championships, you would have said that I was crazy.
3) If you want to draw any parallels to those comments and this year's UW, it would be that all of this talk about how UW can't do this and that because the program has been losers for the last 15 years is BS. Things that were happening in 2004 have no impact on this team IMO ... the Freshman on this team were 5-6 years old then. All that matters is what they do on the field this year. I'll at least buy some of the stuff that happened last year as reason to pull the "I'll wait until they prove it." But anything that was tied to this team before these players/staff were part of it is absolute BS. -
I could be the happiest person in the world and I would still call you a dumbass.Tequilla said:Since some of you miserable people like to hold onto screenshots for almost 10 years, that's fine ... but you can lose some of the context
There's no way in 2007 that I was on the Tyrone train ... I thought that his ceiling was going to be 5-4 or 6-3 in the conference. It was more of a statement about where I thought Oregon was going under Belotti ... then Chip happened.
The fallacy is that the Oregon under Chip Kelly was the Oregon that was in place for the balance of the continuing streak ... that's not been the case. After the special Fiesta Bowl season of 2001, Oregon's record from 2002-2007 was 46-29 and only 28-22 in conference on the back of a 7-1 conference record in 2005. Their bowls in that period were the Seattle, Sun, none, Holiday, Vegas, and Sun.
Anybody that claims that they saw an 80-14 record and 55-8 in conference over the 2008-2014 time period with 2 appearances in the National Championship game is fooling themselves.
Just for perspective, since 2009, Washington is 50-41 overall (55% winning percentage). If you back out 2009, the record moves up to 45-34 overall (57% winning percentage). Oregon's winning percentage from 2002-2007 was 61%. To say that a UW 5-7 year dominate run is coming would be as likely as saying that was coming after Oregon's 2007 season. -
Why is Tequila not on the Friday Harbor math & data show?
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Where is the filter in his brain that should be telling him I've lost this one, I should take my lumps, laugh it off and move on.
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He doesn't have one.Gladstone said:Where is the filter in his brain that should be telling him I've lost this one, I should take my lumps, laugh it off and move on.
Fascinating.
Just like his idol. -
I like Teq, moreso on the pod, but I frequently sense his keyboard querying "Again? Really? Why?"
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Laugh and move on I can so easily ...
People saying things I didn't say ... not going to let that slide -
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The screenshots speak for themselves.Tequilla said:Laugh and move on I can so easily ...
People saying things I didn't say ... not going to let that slide
