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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 19,821
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    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
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    85% chance to beat ASU, who's beaten us 140041924 times in a row

    el oh el

    when did FPI hire Chest?

    What's more relevant?

    That in 2009 Sark gave up a hail Mary to end the game with apparently no safety in the game?

    Or that ASU is awful and might win 4 games this year if they're lucky?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 19,821
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    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    That reverse psychology shit don't work on me bruh.
    None given ... predictable lemmings you guys are
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 19,821
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    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    Fuck. You.
    Because a team with a Vegas O/U of 4 or 4.5 winning 6 games (7th in a bowl) isn't outperforming expectations

    The fact of the matter is that if they go 11-1 this year you'll be pissed because of the game they lost and what that loss might cost them
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    Fuck. You.
    Because a team with a Vegas O/U of 4 or 4.5 winning 6 games (7th in a bowl) isn't outperforming expectations

    The fact of the matter is that if they go 11-1 this year you'll be pissed because of the game they lost and what that loss might cost them
    Stop sucking off Vegas. It makes you sound dumber than usual.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 19,821
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    Fuck. You.
    Because a team with a Vegas O/U of 4 or 4.5 winning 6 games (7th in a bowl) isn't outperforming expectations

    The fact of the matter is that if they go 11-1 this year you'll be pissed because of the game they lost and what that loss might cost them
    Stop sucking off Vegas. It makes you sound dumber than usual.
    So the people that handle sports bets in the billions annually with a total win rate in their books easily in the 9 figure range (and growing each year) clearly have no idea what they are talking about per your fucktarded (as usual) logic

    You can see the data here: http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/longterm_nvgaming.pdf

    I don't suck off Vegas ... but I understand how lines are set. They aren't always right ... but their ability to consistently make money year in and year out says that they must know what they are doing.

    If you know better, then by all means go down to Vegas and you should have no problem taking advantage of their stupidity and make an easy living.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 19,821
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    Fuck. You.
    Because a team with a Vegas O/U of 4 or 4.5 winning 6 games (7th in a bowl) isn't outperforming expectations

    The fact of the matter is that if they go 11-1 this year you'll be pissed because of the game they lost and what that loss might cost them
    Stop sucking off Vegas. It makes you sound dumber than usual.
    So the people that handle sports bets in the billions annually with a total win rate in their books easily in the 9 figure range (and growing each year) clearly have no idea what they are talking about per your fucktarded (as usual) logic

    You can see the data here: http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/longterm_nvgaming.pdf

    I don't suck off Vegas ... but I understand how lines are set. They aren't always right ... but their ability to consistently make money year in and year out says that they must know what they are doing.

    If you know better, then by all means go down to Vegas and you should have no problem taking advantage of their stupidity and make an easy living.
    Clearly not the case.

    I never said Vegas wasn't smart or good at making money. So don't twist.

    But they don't set lines to be right. They set lines to make a shit ton of money off degenerate fucking gamblers. They don't give a fuck if UW won 2.5 games more than the line they set as long as the count is right at the end of the season.

    So when dumb fucks like you or HFNY quote Vegas lines as if they were handed down from Biff Tannen's sports almanac, you look like even bigger dumb fucks than usual.

    HTH
    And you like to say that I'm dumb ...
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,145 Founders Club
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    This thread is going to be even funnier when Rutgers pushes our shit in.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,820 Swaye's Wigwam
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    It's that time of the year again for doogs . Jesus Christ
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    I scrolled directly to the FREE PUB at the end.

    Normally that would get a chincredible but I had to scroll too far for that.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    PM to @Tequilla:

    The 2016 motto is "Shut the fuck up and win".

    Get on bored with that or LEAVE
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    Fuck. You.
    Because a team with a Vegas O/U of 4 or 4.5 winning 6 games (7th in a bowl) isn't outperforming expectations

    The fact of the matter is that if they go 11-1 this year you'll be pissed because of the game they lost and what that loss might cost them
    Stop sucking off Vegas. It makes you sound dumber than usual.
    So the people that handle sports bets in the billions annually with a total win rate in their books easily in the 9 figure range (and growing each year) clearly have no idea what they are talking about per your fucktarded (as usual) logic

    You can see the data here: http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/longterm_nvgaming.pdf

    I don't suck off Vegas ... but I understand how lines are set. They aren't always right ... but their ability to consistently make money year in and year out says that they must know what they are doing.

    If you know better, then by all means go down to Vegas and you should have no problem taking advantage of their stupidity and make an easy living.
    Lines are created by market forces. It's not the opening lines that are efficient it's the closing lines after the smart money has come in.

    That being said regular season win totals are not a heavily bet market and are almost exclusively for suckers. If your model has an edge over the sportsbook why would you tie your money up for 5 months when you could be putting it to work every week?
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,417 Founders Club
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    haie said:

    It's that time of the year again for doogs . Jesus Christ

    I don't have a choice. I'm done assuming we suck again. We?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Gladstone said:

    haie said:

    It's that time of the year again for doogs . Jesus Christ

    I don't have a choice. I'm done assuming we suck again. We?
    I just want UW to lose at least for games so that you LEAVE.



    Hurtful?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,647 Swaye's Wigwam
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    Tequilla said:

    The statistical models are terrible at picking up most of the intangible shit ...

    That being said, the numbers in theory are directionally correct ...

    At Arizona is considered a tough game because it is on the road early in the year (I agree that the numbers with Stanford should probably be switched here) ...

    I'm assuming the Stanford numbers are reflecting the games that Stanford is coming off of + short week + travel/road game

    Oregon's backward slide is predicated on 1) how much of a loss VAJ is and 2) the fact that they lost the balance of a poor defense

    USC is probably the most talented team in the conference ... their talent is overrated when you factor in everything that goes around it ... their DL is going to kill them this year

    ASU will likely out perform expectations this year and they are a mess for statistical models based on the way they play.

    The models predict 9-10 wins which seems like a good baseline. However, when you look at the numbers, UW is a favorite in every game and when you really think about the talent in the conference and compare it to UW's, there shouldn't be a game that we go into this year (assuming health in key spots) where we are any worse than a coin flip.

    Too many here are too busy thinking about the last 15 years and putting past failures on this team before they've proven anything one way or another. The fact is that if you go by the "expectations" for last season they outperformed. But there are some here that will predict UW to lose game after game as soon as they start winning simply because they won't believe.

    @TierbsHsotBoobs @ThomasFremont @RaceBannon @RoadDawg55 you can all go ahead and start downvoting and WTF'ing this shit ... it's what you losers do

    So when dumb fucks like you or HFNY quote Vegas lines as if they were handed down from Biff Tannen's sports almanac, you look like even bigger dumb fucks than usual.