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Obama paid $400 million ransom to Iran

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  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,993
    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    You are bad at this. Trump is terrible on so many levels. But keep sucking his dick, his balls on your chin are a good look on you.

    PS paying off foreign governments is something pretty much every president has done. It's part of the job.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,993
    edited August 2016
    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    You are bad at this. Trump is terrible on so many levels. But keep sucking his dick, his balls on your chin are a good look on you.

    PS paying off foreign governments is something pretty much every president has done. It's part of the job.
    Speed limit IQ.

    None of this discussion is about Trump...it's about the actual event of Obama paying Iran for hostages, which is not something every President does. And yet you are still too stupid to realize this and ramble on about Trump. I guess we shouldn't expect more.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    You are bad at this. Trump is terrible on so many levels. But keep sucking his dick, his balls on your chin are a good look on you.

    PS paying off foreign governments is something pretty much every president has done. It's part of the job.
    Speed limit IQ.

    None of this discussion is about Trump...it's about the actual event of Obama paying Iran for hostages, which is not something every President does. And yet you are still too stupid to realize this and ramble on about Trump. I guess we shouldn't expect more.
    You fucking brought up Trump. Here was your quote I was responding to.

    For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.

    You clearly got amnesia at what you posted.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,537 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    News will be out that Hillary was running guns out of Benghazi which is why Stevens was still there

    Gun running was the cool thing to do when Bush was president. Now you hate gun running.
    Fuck off
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    News will be out that Hillary was running guns out of Benghazi which is why Stevens was still there

    Gun running was the cool thing to do when Bush was president. Now you hate gun running.
    Fuck off
    Someone struck a nerve.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,537 Founders Club
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2016

    OZONE said:

    TheGlove said:

    Diplomacy, foreign relations. I'm sure Trumpf would have cut a much better deal using hid flawless business acumen.

    What, again, does Trump have to do with the current President paying a bribe to a state sponsor of terrorism to release US hostages (and hiding this from the American people)?

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    I like to live in a country that has been sponsoring terror since at least 1910, and then act like an ignorant hypocrite about states that sponsor terror, while also belonging to a party whose biggest hero in the last 50 years did the exact same thing.
    I like it when crazy @OZONE drops the mask
    For better or worse, I had very honest history teachers in high school (Inglemoor). They pissed off a lot of right wing parents, but it was a great high school education.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    If you actually read the WSJ article, you might have understood that we*'d frozen assets in 1979 and had taken the Shah's money without actually fulfilling the terms of the arms sale because it would have meant giving those arms to the Revolutionary Government. We* expected to lose the arbitration in The Hague, so we made a deal. Not our* money to begin with.

    Look, if you don't like how he conducts foreign policy, don't vote for him the next time around.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter
    Iranian press reports have quoted senior Iranian defense officials describing the cash as a ransom payment. The Iranian foreign ministry didn’t respond to a request for comment.

    The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law. Sanctions also complicate Tehran’s access to global banks.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,416 Standard Supporter

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    Well technically trading the 5 top terrorists from Gilmore for traitor Bergdahl was a crime IIRC. But not for the left.............
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    I thought this wasn't about Trumpf?

    Oh, and your reading skills suck.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    2001400ex said:

    News will be out that Hillary was running guns out of Benghazi which is why Stevens was still there

    Gun running was the cool thing to do when Bush was president. Now you hate gun running.
    Fuck off
    Golves off?
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    If you actually read the WSJ article, you might have understood that we*'d frozen assets in 1979 and had taken the Shah's money without actually fulfilling the terms of the arms sale because it would have meant giving those arms to the Revolutionary Government. We* expected to lose the arbitration in The Hague, so we made a deal. Not our* money to begin with.

    Look, if you don't like how he conducts foreign policy, don't vote for him the next time around.
    But, but, but HOSTAGES!!!!!11!!!!ONE!!!

    @HoustonHuskyFS has been outed as a complete retard in this thread. Is it Friday yet?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,993
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    If you actually read the WSJ article, you might have understood that we*'d frozen assets in 1979 and had taken the Shah's money without actually fulfilling the terms of the arms sale because it would have meant giving those arms to the Revolutionary Government. We* expected to lose the arbitration in The Hague, so we made a deal. Not our* money to begin with.

    Look, if you don't like how he conducts foreign policy, don't vote for him the next time around.
    I did, and your comments are not applicable to anything really. Did the cash come from the frozen assets (which were still frozen before the deal was agreed upon, and should still be frozen)?

    In case you are curious the answer is no...
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,993
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    OZONE said:

    Read up on Iran Contra. Reagan gave them arms. Which was a bribe. To get hostages from Lebanon.

    He admitted it. After he tried to keep it a secret but was caught.

    The October surprise was an entirely different incident.

    No, that administration didn't. They sold them arms. Still bad (and a whole separate foreign policy discussion...just ask Hillary and her involvement with folks like Pinchuk and Ericcson AB and now Lefarge who was working with ISIS), but that is still a BIG, BIG difference from sending pallets of unmarked currency over for hostages.

    Not only bad, but illegal. When Carter tried to deal spare parts for Embassy hostages in 1980, it was legal. By the time Reagan's people did it, Congress had passed legislation making it illegal.

    I see nothing illegal in the WSJ report
    What law again was passed by Congress authorizing tax dollars being cashed out and sent to Iran in exchange for hostages? For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.
    You are bad at this. Trump is terrible on so many levels. But keep sucking his dick, his balls on your chin are a good look on you.

    PS paying off foreign governments is something pretty much every president has done. It's part of the job.
    Speed limit IQ.

    None of this discussion is about Trump...it's about the actual event of Obama paying Iran for hostages, which is not something every President does. And yet you are still too stupid to realize this and ramble on about Trump. I guess we shouldn't expect more.
    You fucking brought up Trump. Here was your quote I was responding to.

    For all the Liberals worried about what Trump would do to harm the Constitution and separation of Powers they somehow get amnesia over what is actually happening.

    You clearly got amnesia at what you posted.
    For all the hypothetical discussion (i.e. Trump...let me guess, you are too dumb to understand the word hypothetical), this is something that actually happened. And yet all you do is scream Trump.

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