Yet another Billionaire calls out Trump
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Can't provide a link to something that doesn't exist.RaceBannon said:You're welcome to provide a link proving me wrong
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I should try and shrug this off and claim, you must be "knew" here.Sledog said:
Well I'm not normally a grammar nazi but if your gonna bag on the situation in question you might want to use the correct word:OZONE said:
Two things:sarktastic said:vote
Your stupid. The law is based on burden of proof by the accuserOZONE said:Buffett says that Trump's excuse that the IRS audit prevents him from releasing his tax return information is total bullshit.
There is nothing in that law that prevents a person from releasing tax returns while the IRS is auditing them, according to Buffett, who has been audited by the IRS.
Trump is a fraud.
1. If you want to tell somebody else they are stupid, you might learn the difference between your, and you're, at least in the sentence which you are using to cast the dispersion.
2. The only accusation here is that Trump is the only candidate from a major party in the last 50 years that has refused to release his tax returns, and he says he can't because he is currently being audited. There is nothing to prove here. It is a fact. On top of that, Buffett just called him a liar. What else do you need proved?
dis·per·sion
diˈspərZHən,diˈspərSHən/
noun
the action or process of distributing things or people over a wide area.
"some seeds rely on birds for dispersion"
the state of being dispersed over a wide area.
"the general dispersion of Hellenistic culture"
ECOLOGY the pattern of distribution of individuals within a habitat.
as·per·sion
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an attack on the reputation or integrity of someone or something.
"I don't think anyone is casting aspersions on you"
synonyms: vilify, disparage, denigrate, defame, run down, impugn, belittle, criticize, condemn, decry, denounce
Just sayin'.
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I don't have to prove to you that God exists. You have to prove that he doesn't exist. My favorite retard argumentRaceBannon said:You're welcome to provide a link proving me wrong
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Hondo admitted I was right already. Trump released his business.
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WHAT DOES THAT SHITHEAD RACE HAVE TO SAY NOW???TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I just want Hillary to win so Race can be wrong.2001400ex said:
You sound bitter old man. Can wait to see your melt down when Hillary gets elected.RaceBannon said:
Did I ask for a warrant you fucking moron?2001400ex said:
Yet you still want to see Obama's college transcripts.RaceBannon said:
This is AmericaTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Following your terrible analogy:sarktastic said:vote
Your stupid. The law is based on burden of proof by the accuserOZONE said:Buffett says that Trump's excuse that the IRS audit prevents him from releasing his tax return information is total bullshit.
There is nothing in that law that prevents a person from releasing tax returns while the IRS is auditing them, according to Buffett, who has been audited by the IRS.
Trump is a fraud.
It's time for someone to get a warrant for Trump's tax returns so they can find out if there is sufficient proof behind these accusations.
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provide a link to when Race was ever wrong!seatownfunk said:
WHAT DOES THAT SHITHEAD RACE HAVE TO SAY NOW???TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I just want Hillary to win so Race can be wrong.2001400ex said:
You sound bitter old man. Can wait to see your melt down when Hillary gets elected.RaceBannon said:
Did I ask for a warrant you fucking moron?2001400ex said:
Yet you still want to see Obama's college transcripts.RaceBannon said:
This is AmericaTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Following your terrible analogy:sarktastic said:vote
Your stupid. The law is based on burden of proof by the accuserOZONE said:Buffett says that Trump's excuse that the IRS audit prevents him from releasing his tax return information is total bullshit.
There is nothing in that law that prevents a person from releasing tax returns while the IRS is auditing them, according to Buffett, who has been audited by the IRS.
Trump is a fraud.
It's time for someone to get a warrant for Trump's tax returns so they can find out if there is sufficient proof behind these accusations.
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No. Trump didn't. He released fake values of his businesses. You said he released the financials of his businesses akin to a tax return. Race. Is. Wrong.RaceBannon said:Hondo admitted I was right already. Trump released his business.
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Now the goalposts move. He released it and no one laid a golve on it like I said2001400ex said:
No. Trump didn't. He released fake values of his businesses. You said he released the financials of his businesses akin to a tax return. Race. Is. Wrong.RaceBannon said:Hondo admitted I was right already. Trump released his business.
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He released his bidness financials and no one has laid a golve on them.RaceBannon said:
Now the goalposts move. He released it and no one laid a golve on it like I said2001400ex said:
No. Trump didn't. He released fake values of his businesses. You said he released the financials of his businesses akin to a tax return. Race. Is. Wrong.RaceBannon said:Hondo admitted I was right already. Trump released his business.
I never said anything about a tax return you fucking liar
That's what you said. He did not release the financials. He released his assets with bullshit values and the media did discuss it. So you are wrong on both accounts. It's even in the fucking CNN article you posted.
You do realize that financials include an income statement right?
Really Trump is being dumb. If he released his tax returns 3 months ago,, no one would be talking about them. Romney released his and they talked about them for about a day. Then moved on to something else. -
Great pumpy triple reply
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Disagree.RaceBannon said:Great pumpy triple reply
I was right. -
I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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Actually peopled golved all over those returns. There was criticism of the valuations and methods used. Questioning the accuracy and meaningfulness of the numbers. But it was back in the day when Trump was just one of many candidates. One that, most figured, would not get the nomination.RaceBannon said:
Now the goalposts move. He released it and no one laid a golve on it like I said2001400ex said:
No. Trump didn't. He released fake values of his businesses. You said he released the financials of his businesses akin to a tax return. Race. Is. Wrong.RaceBannon said:Hondo admitted I was right already. Trump released his business.
I never said anything about a tax return you fucking liar
So Race Is Right AND Race Is Wrong.
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Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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Yeah, if you value all the buildings and golf courses and shit he owns, he's got billions. But those buildings aren't liquid. They are income producing, and for sure the dude is super rich, but he isn't drop two billion on a sports franchise rich. Unless someone would take two Trump towers, a casino, and a golf course in trade.2001400ex said:
Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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Sounds like a job for our top, top Native American negotiatorSwaye said:
Yeah, if you value all the buildings and golf courses and shit he owns, he's got billions. But those buildings aren't liquid. They are income producing, and for sure the dude is super rich, but he isn't drop two billion on a sports franchise rich. Unless someone would take two Trump towers, a casino, and a golf course in trade.2001400ex said:
Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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When sober (never), we are much more shrewd than people give us credit for.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sounds like a job for our top, top Native American negotiatorSwaye said:
Yeah, if you value all the buildings and golf courses and shit he owns, he's got billions. But those buildings aren't liquid. They are income producing, and for sure the dude is super rich, but he isn't drop two billion on a sports franchise rich. Unless someone would take two Trump towers, a casino, and a golf course in trade.2001400ex said:
Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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We need a Hardcore Husky finance article of the week from Swaye.Swaye said:
Yeah, if you value all the buildings and golf courses and shit he owns, he's got billions. But those buildings aren't liquid. They are income producing, and for sure the dude is super rich, but he isn't drop two billion on a sports franchise rich. Unless someone would take two Trump towers, a casino, and a golf course in trade.2001400ex said:
Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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It would take me a year to write it. And even then it'd be all fucked up.CuntWaffle said:
We need a Hardcore Husky finance article of the week from Swaye.Swaye said:
Yeah, if you value all the buildings and golf courses and shit he owns, he's got billions. But those buildings aren't liquid. They are income producing, and for sure the dude is super rich, but he isn't drop two billion on a sports franchise rich. Unless someone would take two Trump towers, a casino, and a golf course in trade.2001400ex said:
Agreed. Mark Cuban even said, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he says, $500 million is nothing to contribute to a campaign. He's claiming he's rich like Steve ballmer, who paid $2 billion for a $150 million basketball franchise.Swaye said:I'm in the camp that thinks Trump won't release them because he isn't as rich as he wants everyone to believe. I mean look, he is a rich fucker, no doubt. But I am thinking he is "real estate" rich and not burn hundreds to keep the fire going rich. And he is the type of egomaniac that would actually care that he isn't as rich as people think. Plus, I think Trump really enjoys telling people who tell him to do something to fuck off. One of the things I like most about him tbh.
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What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
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What I learned in this thread: Ballfag is a cunt. But everyone here already knew that. Maybe we could do a fund raiser for bleach.
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If his annual income doesn't jive with someone who claims to be a billionaire busines genius...that's very relevant. It is the bedrock for why he believes he'd be such a great president.Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
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When did Trump claim he makes billions of dollars every year? Saying you're a billionaire doesn't mean you make that much income. If your tangible net worth is in the billions, liquid or not, you can claim you're a billionaire. And unfortunately, a tax return isn't going to show your assets.BallSacked said:
If his annual income doesn't jive with someone who claims to be a billionaire busines genius...that's very relevant. It is the bedrock for why he believes he'd be such a great president.Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
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And plus, a lot of his income is going to be flowing from Sch E section 2. And you can't just look at the overall net income number of all those pass-through companies to determine what his cash flow situation is. And unfortunately, the net income is about all it shows. You'd need the separate business tax returns (1065s & 1120s) for all of those pass-through companies to do a proper analysis.
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I don't understand any of this but it helps Trump imo.Fenderbender123 said:And plus, a lot of his income is going to be flowing from Sch E section 2. And you can't just look at the overall net income number of all those pass-through companies to determine what his cash flow situation is. And unfortunately, the net income is about all it shows. You'd need the separate business tax returns (1065s & 1120s) for all of those pass-through companies to do a proper analysis.
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Yes, I realize that H&R Block.Fenderbender123 said:
When did Trump claim he makes billions of dollars every year? Saying you're a billionaire doesn't mean you make that much income. If your tangible net worth is in the billions, liquid or not, you can claim you're a billionaire. And unfortunately, a tax return isn't going to show your assets.BallSacked said:
If his annual income doesn't jive with someone who claims to be a billionaire busines genius...that's very relevant. It is the bedrock for why he believes he'd be such a great president.Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
If he claims he is worth several billion dollars, but his tax returns shows income in the (say) single 7 or low 8 figure...it would call into question how accurate his wealth is. Especially for someone that's almost exclusively in income producing properties and businesses.
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You'd be surprised at how many wealthy people don't earn a lot of taxable income.BallSacked said:
Yes, I realize that H&R Block.Fenderbender123 said:
When did Trump claim he makes billions of dollars every year? Saying you're a billionaire doesn't mean you make that much income. If your tangible net worth is in the billions, liquid or not, you can claim you're a billionaire. And unfortunately, a tax return isn't going to show your assets.BallSacked said:
If his annual income doesn't jive with someone who claims to be a billionaire busines genius...that's very relevant. It is the bedrock for why he believes he'd be such a great president.Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
If he claims he is worth several billion dollars, but his tax returns shows income in the (say) single 7 or low 8 figure...it would call into question how accurate his wealth is. Especially for someone that's almost exclusively in income producing properties and businesses.
Besides, you've got to understand how that income works in order to get a better prediction.
For example, Trump might be earning 80 million a year in Sch E income, but then have a 60 million loss on Sch D, resulting in a taxable income of 20 million. But that Sch D income really doesn't count, because that's simply calculated for tax purposes...he didn't actually have 60 million dollars flow out of his bank account.
That's just one example. There's so much to look at, that Trump is right...."there's nothing to learn from them". Your average voter is too fucking stupid to do a proper analysis, and you can bet your life savings that both sides are going to spin the numbers to fit their own narrative, which is just needless confusion for the voters. -
If we aren't going to learn anything, why doesn't he just release them then?Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
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My guess is that Trump has decided it's not worth the shit show that would be the discussion over them. Even if there's nothing to learn from them, do you really think the media is just going to not comment on them? Of course not...they're gonna start spinning the numbers, even though the financial data is far too incomplete to make an accurate assessment of his cash flow situation, which means he'd have to spend a lot of time and energy defending them when the whole situation is moot because of the incomplete financial picture. It's a lose-lose, but I think not releasing them is the right idea.
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I'd like to see his charitable contributions.Fenderbender123 said:What are we going to learn from his tax returns? "Oh look, Trump's taxable Schedule D income increased by 18% in 2015. That means he's going to start World War 3 if elected."
