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2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
edited July 2016 in Tug Tavern
So we have Kansas that cut taxes on the wealthy and businesses and failed. California raised taxes and has been successful. Again tell me how supply side economics works.

Because after Arnold left office, we eliminated what scientists would call ‘variables,’ in this case the Republicans. Democrats from Governor on down control every office and voting body in this state, so we can really see what happens when liberal policies are tried unimpeded. And the only thing that I have to say to Republicans about that is; scoreboard, bitches

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-republicans-wake-023707273.html
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Two dum too funk shun
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:

    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.

    Actually California is 34 and Texas is 35 in poverty rate. Got any other meaningless stats that aren't even factual?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.

    Actually California is 34 and Texas is 35 in poverty rate. Got any other meaningless stats that aren't even factual?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate
    Wikipedia ...

    Yes the absolute gold standard.

    El. Oh. El.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    *Should have read:

    Its the resources.

    California has an abundance of resources compared to Kansas.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.

    Actually California is 34 and Texas is 35 in poverty rate. Got any other meaningless stats that aren't even factual?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate
    Wikipedia ...

    Yes the absolute gold standard.

    El. Oh. El.
    Google it. Every recent poverty rate has Texas and California at the same rate. But I'll trust your news. Yeah that's it.

    For fucks sakes.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Without the ekonomic boost from the Port of Kansas, no way would Kansas match Kalifornia's ekonomy
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Without the ekonomic boost from the Port of Kansas, no way would Kansas match Kalifornia's ekonomy

    Kansas was sold that the tax cuts would bring in more revenue to the government and simulate economic activity. Of which neither happened. But keep up meaningless bullshit.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Two dum to funk shun
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.

    Actually California is 34 and Texas is 35 in poverty rate. Got any other meaningless stats that aren't even factual?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate
    Wikipedia ...

    Yes the absolute gold standard.

    El. Oh. El.
    Google it. Every recent poverty rate has Texas and California at the same rate. But I'll trust your news. Yeah that's it.

    For fucks sakes.
    thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/americas-future-california-or-texas/

    I know its not Wikipedia.

    However, you will notice how he details the problems with determining poverty levels, as noted below:

    Thus, the federal government’s main poverty gauge undercounts material poverty levels in high-cost states such as California, New York, and Hawaii, while over-counting true poverty in much of the low-cost Midwest and South.

    Its all about resources. The tech industry is making a comeback, which is helping CA. Oil is down, which is hurting Texas.

    If Kansas had tech, oil, or both ... we'd be having a different discussion ... and we both know that.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Great putting money & government ahead of liberty as always.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    How many municipalities in Kansas are bankrupt again?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    How many municipalities in Kansas are bankrupt again?

    The O/U is 5.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    topdawgnc said:

    I wonder what would happen if Silicon Valley was in Kansas.

    Its not the taxes, its the

    Should compare California to Texas:

    Much of California’s nation-leading poverty rate is due to the high cost of housing in the Golden State, a significant portion of which is driven by hyper-controls on development, greenhouse gas fees, restrictive zoning, and taxes. It takes five years to get permission to build in California what commonly takes five months in Texas. If California is America’s future, then that future is overrun with poverty.

    What’s remarkable (or not, depending on your worldview) about the huge disparity in poverty rates between California and Texas is that the states are diametrically opposed in their taxing, spending, and regulatory policies. California, featuring America’s highest marginal income-tax rate, ranks as the fourth-most taxed state in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation, while no-income-tax Texas came in at forty-seventh. In a broader survey of economic freedom that includes labor law and regulation, Canada’s Fraser Institute rated Texas and South Dakota as tied for first with California lagging far behind at forty-third, just ahead of New Jersey at forty-fourth.

    Actually California is 34 and Texas is 35 in poverty rate. Got any other meaningless stats that aren't even factual?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate
    Wikipedia ...

    Yes the absolute gold standard.

    El. Oh. El.
    Google it. Every recent poverty rate has Texas and California at the same rate. But I'll trust your news. Yeah that's it.

    For fucks sakes.
    thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/americas-future-california-or-texas/

    I know its not Wikipedia.

    However, you will notice how he details the problems with determining poverty levels, as noted below:

    Thus, the federal government’s main poverty gauge undercounts material poverty levels in high-cost states such as California, New York, and Hawaii, while over-counting true poverty in much of the low-cost Midwest and South.

    Its all about resources. The tech industry is making a comeback, which is helping CA. Oil is down, which is hurting Texas.

    If Kansas had tech, oil, or both ... we'd be having a different discussion ... and we both know that.
    Oh so you don't like the stats so you find a source that disputes them. Never mind the fact that that poverty isn't even the issue in the discussion.

    Kansas was sold that the tax cuts would bring business in and grow the state. You and I both know that hasn't happened.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,695 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    So we have Kansas that cut taxes on the wealthy and businesses and failed. California raised taxes and has been successful. Again tell me how supply side economics works.

    Because after Arnold left office, we eliminated what scientists would call ‘variables,’ in this case the Republicans. Democrats from Governor on down control every office and voting body in this state, so we can really see what happens when liberal policies are tried unimpeded. And the only thing that I have to say to Republicans about that is; scoreboard, bitches

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-republicans-wake-023707273.html

    Working great in Venezuela. Argentina. N. Korea. Former USSR. E. Germany. Etc. Etc. Figures never lie but liars figure. California's books are cooked just like the BHO administrations.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    How many municipalities in Kansas are bankrupt again?

    Keep deflecting. We are talking about a state issue, not city.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    So we have Kansas that cut taxes on the wealthy and businesses and failed. California raised taxes and has been successful. Again tell me how supply side economics works.

    Because after Arnold left office, we eliminated what scientists would call ‘variables,’ in this case the Republicans. Democrats from Governor on down control every office and voting body in this state, so we can really see what happens when liberal policies are tried unimpeded. And the only thing that I have to say to Republicans about that is; scoreboard, bitches

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-republicans-wake-023707273.html

    Working great in Venezuela. Argentina. N. Korea. Former USSR. E. Germany. Etc. Etc. Figures never lie but liars figure. California's books are cooked just like the BHO administrations.
    So you are saying that California's government implemented socialism like USSR, E Germany and the other countries you mentioned? Seriously, if you are autistic or just brain dead, tell me. I hate making fun of handicapped people.

    Fuck.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Hondo is pro government slavery hth
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Hondo is pro government slavery hth

    Slavery is the only way to keep the citizens in check.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    There is no deflection...Cali budget isn't great:
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

    A bunch of California municipalities are a mess, and higher paid workers and businesses are still leaving the state in droves. And this is with a stock market bubble caused by the fed which is subsidizing the states income (they get a bunch off of capital gains...not a good sign when stock market multiples are as high as they are).

    Keep gurgling...
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,695 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Hondo is pro government slavery hth

    Slavery is the only way to keep the citizens in check.
    Liberal morons deflect, lie and cheat. Yes Kalifornia is socialist.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    There is no deflection...Cali budget isn't great:
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

    A bunch of California municipalities are a mess, and higher paid workers and businesses are still leaving the state in droves. And this is with a stock market bubble caused by the fed which is subsidizing the states income (they get a bunch off of capital gains...not a good sign when stock market multiples are as high as they are).

    Keep gurgling...

    You need to be a subscriber to the San Fransisco chronicle. Go fuck yourself.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo is pro government slavery hth

    Slavery is the only way to keep the citizens in check.
    Liberal morons deflect, lie and cheat. Yes Kalifornia is socialist.
    Oh so the state owns the production? There are no private business. Seriously, what mental condition do you have?
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    2001400ex said:

    There is no deflection...Cali budget isn't great:
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

    A bunch of California municipalities are a mess, and higher paid workers and businesses are still leaving the state in droves. And this is with a stock market bubble caused by the fed which is subsidizing the states income (they get a bunch off of capital gains...not a good sign when stock market multiples are as high as they are).

    Keep gurgling...

    You need to be a subscriber to the San Fransisco chronicle. Go fuck yourself.
    Only if you are a moron. So yes, you specifically need to be a subscriber. The rest of us (or a least a portion of us) can read it no problem without being one. Here is a tidbit from it though:

    Good bond ratings are a sign of a strong budget and financial management and allow states to pay lower interest rates when selling bonds.

    “Compared to other states, though, California has one of the lower ratings,” Petek said.

    And the reason is clear, he said. It’s California’s debt and liabilities that are concerning financial analysts, particularly the state’s rapidly growing unfunded retiree health care costs, which grew more than 80 percent over the past decade.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    There is no deflection...Cali budget isn't great:
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

    A bunch of California municipalities are a mess, and higher paid workers and businesses are still leaving the state in droves. And this is with a stock market bubble caused by the fed which is subsidizing the states income (they get a bunch off of capital gains...not a good sign when stock market multiples are as high as they are).

    Keep gurgling...

    You need to be a subscriber to the San Fransisco chronicle. Go fuck yourself.
    Only if you are a moron. So yes, you specifically need to be a subscriber. The rest of us (or a least a portion of us) can read it no problem without being one. Here is a tidbit from it though:

    Good bond ratings are a sign of a strong budget and financial management and allow states to pay lower interest rates when selling bonds.

    “Compared to other states, though, California has one of the lower ratings,” Petek said.

    And the reason is clear, he said. It’s California’s debt and liabilities that are concerning financial analysts, particularly the state’s rapidly growing unfunded retiree health care costs, which grew more than 80 percent over the past decade.

    Look at where debt went up and then down.

    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_2014_2018CAp_H0c
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    This thread is full of cancer
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited July 2016
    Keep changing the basis...it's still bad for Cali. Look at the credit market. Kansas has a better credit rating than California. It's that simple.

    God you are effing stupid.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Keep changing the basis...it's still bad for Cali. Look at the credit market. Kansas has a better credit rating than California. It's that simple.

    God you are effing stupid.

    Lol you keep finding a metric to make your point. Because we all know credit ratings are reliable. 2008 ring a bell?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,695 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2016
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo is pro government slavery hth

    Slavery is the only way to keep the citizens in check.
    Liberal morons deflect, lie and cheat. Yes Kalifornia is socialist.
    Oh so the state owns the production? There are no private business. Seriously, what mental condition do you have?
    Just common sense. You should try it sometime Hondo. But it's obvious you are lacking. What percentage of your wages are you paying in taxes?

    You know you can always give more of your money. I just won't let you give more of mine!

    I hear Venezuela is beautiful this time of year you should visit and see how this BS all works out.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hondo is pro government slavery hth

    Slavery is the only way to keep the citizens in check.
    Liberal morons deflect, lie and cheat. Yes Kalifornia is socialist.
    Oh so the state owns the production? There are no private business. Seriously, what mental condition do you have?
    Just common sense. You should try it sometime Hondo. But it's obvious you are lacking. What percentage of your wages are you paying in taxes?

    You know you can always give more of your money. I just won't let you give more of mine!

    I hear Venezuela is beautiful this time of year you should visit and see how this BS all works out.
    I'm in a higher tax bracket than you. Clearly in another IQ level. Seriously. Venezuela!!!!! That's your argument?