D Rose to D Knicks

dnc

Kind of a perfect match of post relevance

PurpleJ

I don't even follow basketball much and I know that was dumb move.

Have any talking heads come out and said that this move makes the Knicks an instant contender? Some NY homer will.

Gladstone

oh shit



To Knicks: Rose, Justin Holiday, 2017 2nd rounder
To Bulls: Robin Lopez, Calderon, Jerian Grant

Tequilla

Count on Butler getting moved ... Bulls are blowing shit up I think

Gladstone

lolz wroten got cut

RaceBannon

Knicks gonna Knick

RoadDawg55

Non factor players getting traded to non factor teams.

FreeChavez

Gladstone said:

lolz wroten got cut

TW is right on the fence of burning out of the league or being the guy that is "veteran" who can play enough minutes(ie mo williams) to not burn the entire house down and play for league min for a bunch of years.

But, the fact he still can't shoot and can't stay on the knicks doesn't bode well...

allpurpleallgold

RoadDawg55 said:

Non factor players getting traded to non factor teams.

I do like Grant. He could be a quality role player.

CuntWaffle

This has legs

Tequilla

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you stay in school until you are ready to step into a NBA rotation

dnc

Tequilla said:

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you go pro as soon as you can get a check

Had Wroten stayed at UW until he was ready to go into an NBA rotation there's a good chance he never leaves early and has no draft stock after his senior year. If he had a work ethic it would be a different story. But with who he is, he made the smart choice.

Tequilla

dnc said:

Tequilla said:

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you go pro as soon as you can get a check

Had Wroten stayed at UW until he was ready to go into an NBA rotation there's a good chance he never leaves early and has no draft stock after his senior year. If he had a work ethic it would be a different story. But with who he is, he made the smart choice.

So what you are saying is that if you can sell a shit sandwich like Wroten did versus actually selling a product by developing it and turning it into something useful, you should settle for selling the shit sandwich?

I get that there's a lot of shithead in Wroten and between everything he heard growing up, etc. he was at a point where coming into UW he believed his shit didn't stink, it showed on the court, and has followed him into his NBA career.

I get that given that circumstances, it probably made sense for him to go pro and collect whatever he could get since he wasn't prepared to put the work into getting better.

Personally, I don't identify with that line of thinking at all and firmly believe that if you have a weakness you bust your ass to turn it into a strength.

But then again, perhaps this is one of the reasons I've never been a big Wroten fan.

PurpleJ

CuntWaffle said:

This has legs

But no knees.

allpurpleallgold

I find the idea that a player can "develop" in college but not when he's actually in the NBA idiotic. If Wroten wanted to/was capable of getting better he would have.

HuskiesADW

What everyone has failed to mention here is that the Knicks are acquiring Rose in his contract year.

For some odd reason many injury prone/past their prime players often put up a very good/great season during their contract year. For that reason I actually like the trade from the Knicks perspective.

Lopez is a nice player but I think KP makes him somewhat replaceable.

allpurpleallgold

HuskiesADW said:

What everyone has failed to mention here is that the Knicks are acquiring Rose in his contract year.

For some odd reason many injury prone/past their prime players often put up a very good/great season during their contract year. For that reason I actually like the trade from the Knicks perspective.

Lopez is a nice player but I think KP makes him somewhat replaceable.

The problem is what if he has a big year? Then the Knicks pay him and they're stuck with his broken own ass. If they're ready to just let him walk that's fine but this is the fucking Knicks after all.

dnc

Tequilla said:

dnc said:

Tequilla said:

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you go pro as soon as you can get a check

Had Wroten stayed at UW until he was ready to go into an NBA rotation there's a good chance he never leaves early and has no draft stock after his senior year. If he had a work ethic it would be a different story. But with who he is, he made the smart choice.

So what you are saying is that if you can sell a shit sandwich like Wroten did versus actually selling a product by developing it and turning it into something useful, you should settle for selling the shit sandwich?

I get that there's a lot of shithead in Wroten and between everything he heard growing up, etc. he was at a point where coming into UW he believed his shit didn't stink, it showed on the court, and has followed him into his NBA career.

I get that given that circumstances, it probably made sense for him to go pro and collect whatever he could get since he wasn't prepared to put the work into getting better.

Personally, I don't identify with that line of thinking at all and firmly believe that if you have a weakness you bust your ass to turn it into a strength.

But then again, perhaps this is one of the reasons I've never been a big Wroten fan.

I've always hated Wroten

hth

dnc

Rose fupdate

DerekJohnson

Tequilla said:

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you stay in school until you are ready to step into a NBA rotation

You're forgetting the Romar factor

dnc

DerekJohnson said:

Tequilla said:

Grant has a chance to be a player ...

Wroten's plight is the exact reason that you stay in school until you are ready to step into a NBA rotation

You're forgetting the Romar factor

Actually developing guards is probably the one thing Romar has been excellent at. Look at the guards who have spent three or more years under Romar, almost all of them have improved drastically under his leadership (other than Gaddy).

It's possible, even likely, Wroten wouldn't have developed significantly at UW, but that's because of who Wroten is, not who the coach is.

It's possible, even likely, Wroten wouldn't have won significantly at UW. That's because of who the coach is.

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