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Romar already working on 2019 job security

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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Won't mean shit unless any of Crisp/Dickerson/Thybulle/Green/Dorsey can actually develop and be solid upperclassmen starters.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    NEsnake12 said:

    Won't mean shit unless any of Crisp/Dickerson/Thybulle/Green/Dorsey can actually develop and be solid upperclassmen starters.

    LOL... with Romar still the coach?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    I was reading a mock draft today and was shocked that I wasn't shocked to read that both Chriss and Murray have some bust potential to them at the NBA level.

    Can't imagine why anybody would say that.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Alonzo Trier coming back to Arizona for another season.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Houhusky said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Won't mean shit unless any of Crisp/Dickerson/Thybulle/Green/Dorsey can actually develop and be solid upperclassmen starters.

    LOL... with Romar still the coach?
    Exactly the issue. That's why it's an IF. Shouldn't be an if with any good coach.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Houhusky said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Won't mean shit unless any of Crisp/Dickerson/Thybulle/Green/Dorsey can actually develop and be solid upperclassmen starters.

    LOL... with Romar still the coach?
    Meh, I don't really agree with this other than Dickerson since he's a big. Andrews developed significantly in his four years under Romar, and he's just the latest in a long line who developed if they were here long enough. Development of guards and wings isn't the program's issue. Keeping kids longer than two years, x's and o's, never having a non conference resume worth a shit, those are the issues. Player development for non bigs is probably the one real strength I'd say the program has outside of occasionally recruiting.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Won't mean shit unless any of Crisp/Dickerson/Thybulle/Green/Dorsey can actually develop and be solid upperclassmen starters.

    LOL... with Romar still the coach?
    Meh, I don't really agree with this other than Dickerson since he's a big. Andrews developed significantly in his four years under Romar, and he's just the latest in a long line who developed if they were here long enough. Development of guards and wings isn't the program's issue. Keeping kids longer than two years, x's and o's, never having a non conference resume worth a shit, those are the issues. Player development for non bigs is probably the one real strength I'd say the program has outside of occasionally recruiting.
    Romar has shown an ability to get players to be good if they stay for 4 years ... I do think it is worth talking about how much of that is on the players getting better on their own versus coaching. Even with Andrews last year, the difference between him compared to this year was night and day. If it was coaching, then I would say that you probably have to give some of that credit to Will Conroy. I think a lot of that also has to do with him being a 5th year adult playing in a conference that specializes in playing a lot of 18 or 19 year old boys.

    No question that X's and O's are a huge issue. Same with giving kids a compelling reason to stay with the program ... which in my mind really goes against the idea that they'll improve if they stay (compare to some of the more notable programs). The non-conference schedule has been an issue for a while ... I'm sure some of it is tied to the AD needing to drive revenues in the program but also I think that there's a certain part of not exposing the program to a number of terrible losses early in the year. When they have gone aggressive in non-conference scheduling they've gotten burned by it. You could argue if they went with their usual sub-par scheduling this year they may have been in a better position to get into the tournament. The development of bigs is obviously an issue as well ... falls right in with the player development as a whole.

    In the end, the big question with Romar at this point is what's the direction going forward. In her now semi-infamous interview with Softy, Cohen said that it's clear that Romar's got that fire in his belly to get back to the top. I think that's very debatable. You have 2 kids leaving his program as true frosh this year that you can't get too far into their scouting reports for the draft before reading that they have some significant bust potential. Hard to not believe that Fultz won't be doing the same next year barring something unforeseen. And at that point, you continue this trend in the program that anybody worth a damn just goes pro as soon as possible. That's not a trend that will ever leave to a successful program.

    So really, when you look at it, the infrastructure that supports Romar's program is gone. He may still have the vision in place of how to be successful and get teams back to the top of the conference. But he's lost the ability to get people to believe it. And just as importantly, he has almost certainly lost the ability to execute that vision. At that point, it's not personal, it's business. And the right business decision is to move on from Romar and find the right coach that can institute the agent of change needed in the program.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    I was reading a mock draft today and was shocked that I wasn't shocked to read that both Chriss and Murray have some bust potential to them at the NBA level.

    Can't imagine why anybody would say that.

    What a great pundit you are. Next you'll be telling the board that Okafor will be better than Towns. Every player in the draft except for Simmons and 2-3 others also have bust potential.

    The NBA is the most veteran laden professional sports league around. The MLB and NFL have rookies and young players with huge roles on good teams. That rarely happens in the NBA. Towns is the only rookie that could start on a playoff team in the NBA.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    Holy fuck @Tequilla, you give Will Conroy the credit for Andrew's improvement?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259

    Holy fuck @Tequilla, you give Will Conroy the credit for Andrew's improvement?

    You probably should go back and read what I said fucktard ... I said you probably have to give SOME of the credit to Will