How to pay for Single Payer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QsfjEh7AfN0Or you can keep lying about how the richest country on earth can't afford it.
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Wants to murder babies, but also thinks everyone is entitled to free medical care. Interesting position.
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Who said medical care was free? Last I checked there was a cost to single payer.PurpleJ said:Wants to murder babies, but also thinks everyone is entitled to free medical care. Interesting position.
I guess you don't know any doctors or you wouldn't be advocating to further ruin their livelihood.
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Should have put "free" in quotes. That's the word you use to justify stealing from people who earn a living., right Hondo?
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I'm not exactly sure how you think some anectdotal evidence and crying baby killer refutes the video. It was you in another thread that said the cost would drive us off a cliff. Now, with the cost laid out in front of you, you resort to nonsense. It speaks volumes.PurpleJ said:Wants to murder babies, but also thinks everyone is entitled to free medical care. Interesting position.
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Disagree.allpurpleallgold said:
I'm not exactly sure how you think some anectdotal evidence and crying baby killer refutes the video. It was you in another thread that said the cost would drive us off a cliff. Now, with the cost laid out in front of you, you resort to nonsense. It speaks volumes.PurpleJ said:Wants to murder babies, but also thinks everyone is entitled to free medical care. Interesting position.
I guess you don't know any doctors or you wouldn't be advocating to further ruin their livelihood.
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I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
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Sounds great in theory.
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Mr. Sanders is your man with the plan. #BackBernieRaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic
Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit? -
Imagine if you went back to dawgman...2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
And right on cue there is Hondo protecting his buttfuck buddy and ruining what could have been a decent thread.
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Raise the average IQ of both sites, amiright?haie said:
Imagine if you went back to dawgman...2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
Flagged for the young turks
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I'm a paying member of their websitedhdawg said:Flagged for the young turks
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It's easy to say healthcare is free in other countries but gloss over the tax rates that are paid to help subsidize everything ...
No question that healthcare can be significantly better in this country (particularly from a price component) ... but centralizing it in a government system that is overrun with bureaucracy, fraud, and no motivation to minimize costs is not the answer. -
That's the problem with you race. You don't get it. If Republicans would have added their input, Democrats would have made changes to buy the votes.RaceBannon said:
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic
Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit?
Instead we got a pile of shit.
Instead the Republicans made a gamble that the bill would fuck up our economy like they predicted. And they lost. They gambled that voters would vote for the bill to be repealed in 2012 and lost. And now that 20 million Americans have been affected by the bill positively, it's not going away. -
Are you actually saying that Obamacare has been a success?
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Obama did not want any GOP input. This is his bill. The GOP has nothing to do with it being good or bad. If the democrats wanted a good bill all they had to do was write one and pass it. Your logic is fucktarded as usual.2001400ex said:
That's the problem with you race. You don't get it. If Republicans would have added their input, Democrats would have made changes to buy the votes.RaceBannon said:
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic
Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit?
Instead we got a pile of shit.
Instead the Republicans made a gamble that the bill would fuck up our economy like they predicted. And they lost. They gambled that voters would vote for the bill to be repealed in 2012 and lost. And now that 20 million Americans have been affected by the bill positively, it's not going away.
Then you close by saying it is actually a good bill. Make up your mind. Just kidding, we know you are told what to think -
Can you listen for comprehension? What do you think she's telling you?sarktastic said:Fuck off, hondo
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Do you need a fucking dictionary?
Difference between now and then... then, Republicans warned it was a moneygrab and shitshow. Now, we KNOW! -
If by some miracle/natural disaster Sanders was to be elected POTUS, he will be downright envious of how much of his legislative agenda Obama was able to enact. Because Bernie woouldn't get shit passed through congress, not with 100% of Republicans and a decent portion of Democrats opposing everything he wants to do.allpurpleallgold said:
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
I hate that Youngturks guy - talks 12X more than he should. He could have just said, "Eliminate the middleman costs," and then finished the vid in 90 seconds.
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The guy without a job until he was 40? Yeah he's a man!TheGlove said:
Mr. Sanders is your man with the plan. #BackBernieRaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic -
The republicans didn't get to add squat. It was rammed down our throats. Remember "we have to pass it to see what's in it"? Written by the Apollo group. You don't think they created that huge pile of shit that quick do you? It has F'd up our economy and the biggest hits are yet to come! All the largest tax increases come after BHO leaves office.2001400ex said:
That's the problem with you race. You don't get it. If Republicans would have added their input, Democrats would have made changes to buy the votes.RaceBannon said:
Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.2001400ex said:
Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.RaceBannon said:I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.
But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.
I'm not optmistic
Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit?
Instead we got a pile of shit.
Instead the Republicans made a gamble that the bill would fuck up our economy like they predicted. And they lost. They gambled that voters would vote for the bill to be repealed in 2012 and lost. And now that 20 million Americans have been affected by the bill positively, it's not going away. -
"free"
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Ah yes the government running single payer. After watching them w/ medicare/Medicaid/social security where their plan to pay it has been "write another iou", what could go wrong?
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Why would we create a single-payer system?
Just adopt the Netherland's or Japan's healthcare systems and call it a day
