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How to pay for Single Payer

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,580 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.

    But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.

    I'm not optmistic

    Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.
    Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.

    Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,473 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.

    But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.

    I'm not optmistic

    Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.
    Imagine if you went back to dawgman...
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Flagged for the young turks
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dhdawg said:

    Flagged for the young turks

    I'm a paying member of their website ;)
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    It's easy to say healthcare is free in other countries but gloss over the tax rates that are paid to help subsidize everything ...

    No question that healthcare can be significantly better in this country (particularly from a price component) ... but centralizing it in a government system that is overrun with bureaucracy, fraud, and no motivation to minimize costs is not the answer.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    I listened to a bit of it. Yes, we could consolidate all the costs and programs and start over and come up with a single payer system that is very affordable and could even provide good care, Blow it up and start over.

    But Obamacare is the template of what the current congress and parties will come up with. A mish mash of inefficient shit that keeps all the donors getting paid and the people getting fucked.

    I'm not optmistic

    Imagine if conservatives would have embraced the bill rather than just say no.
    Obama is a fucking loser and what he could and could not get done does not define what can be done.

    Why would anyone other than a lackey like you embrace a pile of shit?
    That's the problem with you race. You don't get it. If Republicans would have added their input, Democrats would have made changes to buy the votes.

    Instead we got a pile of shit.

    Instead the Republicans made a gamble that the bill would fuck up our economy like they predicted. And they lost. They gambled that voters would vote for the bill to be repealed in 2012 and lost. And now that 20 million Americans have been affected by the bill positively, it's not going away.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    Are you actually saying that Obamacare has been a success?