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Millions of ordinary Americans support Donald Trump. Here's why

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,742 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Excellent article.

    I stand corrected.

    Bottom line, voters are fucking pissed off.
    True dat. And Trump is marketing pissed off better than any of the other candidates.

    Rubio is a whiner, not even sure Cruz is an American, Hilary is fucking Hilary and Bernie is Larry David with a free college education program.

    Trump is "'Merica Fuck YEAH!" on steroids. He will roll in November.

    Not saying I agree with him on much of anything so don't twist. But unless something radical happens between now and November, get ready for the hottest first lady ever.

    And if he tabs Kacich as the VP, it's not even going to be close.
    Not so fast my friend.

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    Boner deflation.
    That fucker had polio AND married that swamp thing. What a shit show.
    FDR was still banging the shit out of Lucy Mercer.

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    And he was getting busy with these two:

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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Bingo.

    This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.
    Which is what my article pointed out. Blue collar working class. Who would have guessed ...
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Excellent article.

    I stand corrected.

    Bottom line, voters are fucking pissed off.
    True dat. And Trump is marketing pissed off better than any of the other candidates.

    Rubio is a whiner, not even sure Cruz is an American, Hilary is fucking Hilary and Bernie is Larry David with a free college education program.

    Trump is "'Merica Fuck YEAH!" on steroids. He will roll in November.

    Not saying I agree with him on much of anything so don't twist. But unless something radical happens between now and November, get ready for the hottest first lady ever.

    And if he tabs Kacich as the VP, it's not even going to be close.
    Or Ben Carson.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Bingo.

    This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.
    Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.
    It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

    The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.
    Disagree. I've talked to a ton of long-time Dems that will straight vote Trump if Hills is the nominee. They don't trust her.

    I think you see this also bearing out in Trump's cross-aisle support from the voters.

    I think Bernie beats Trump.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,985 Standard Supporter
    Haven't I seen that second woman somewhere?
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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    "Ordinary Americans" have been fucking this country for decades. An IQ of 100, overweight, taking advantage of their employers, filing frivolous lawsuits, filing worker's comp claims when they could easily work, and watching the Kardashians on TV.

    Fuck them.

    Stop. You sound like a Republican.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Oh yes 1000 years from now the history books will all say how America was brought down by frivolous law suits and Kim Kardashian. You sound like an idiot.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,242

    Oh yes 1000 years from now the history books will all say how America was brought down by frivolous law suits and Kim Kardashian. You sound like an idiot.

    Yeah - that's what I said. Get some reading comprehension skills or shut the fuck up.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Octavian said:

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    Is that Trump's World of Warcraft gear?
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,512 Founders Club

    Oh yes 1000 years from now the history books will all say how America was brought down by frivolous law suits and Kim Kardashian. You sound like an idiot.

    You underestimate the power of dat ass.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,233 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Oh yes 1000 years from now the history books will all say how America was brought down by frivolous law suits and Kim Kardashian. You sound like an idiot.

    You underestimate the power of dat ass.
    Overrated.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    how many SUPERDELEGATES did Bernie win????
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    dflea said:

    "Ordinary Americans" have been fucking this country for decades. An IQ of 100, overweight, taking advantage of their employers, filing frivolous lawsuits, filing worker's comp claims when they could easily work, and watching the Kardashians on TV.

    Fuck them.

    This is why I always vote for the elitist candidate.
  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Excellent article.

    I stand corrected.

    Bottom line, voters are fucking pissed off.
    True dat. And Trump is marketing pissed off better than any of the other candidates.

    Rubio is a whiner, not even sure Cruz is an American, Hilary is fucking Hilary and Bernie is Larry David with a free college education program.

    Trump is "'Merica Fuck YEAH!" on steroids. He will roll in November.

    Not saying I agree with him on much of anything so don't twist. But unless something radical happens between now and November, get ready for the hottest first lady ever.

    And if he tabs Kacich as the VP, it's not even going to be close.
    Not so fast my friend.

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    Boner deflation.
    That fucker had polio AND married that swamp thing. What a shit show.
    Don't forget that she was also his cousin. Not 1st cousin, but still close enough to be creepy.

    And he wore a cape.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,913 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Bingo.

    This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.
    Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.
    It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

    The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.
    Most Trump v. Sanders polls have Feel the Bern winning
    If it happens and Sanders gets his ass handed to him, will you admit those who believed like you were dumbfucks?
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Bingo.

    This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.
    Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.
    It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

    The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.
    Most Trump v. Sanders polls have Feel the Bern winning
    If it happens and Sanders gets his ass handed to him, will you admit those who believed like you were dumbfucks?
    If it happens and Trump gets dumpstered by the Bern, will you finally kill yourself?
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,505

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Back when Obama was elected a group of firebrand Republicans saw him as a meal ticket.

    They created a thing called the Tea Party. This would fire up the grassroots and make the GOP a power party with grassroots made up of roughnecks who felt colored folk were taking their jobs.

    Well ... they took advantage of those folk. Played them for fools, thought they would go away.

    Problem is they created a Frankenstein ... and the Frankenstein has found a voice in Donald Trump.

    Nobody cares what his policy on XYZ is ... just that he is going to go kick ass.

    I'm not sure he can beat Cruz one on one ... but we're about to find out.

    I don't agree with your assessment. The Tea Party is still here. They're still by and large Cruz supporters who want an extreme cutback on government and a renewed focus on socially restrictive policies.

    Trump's supporters are all over the spectrum politically, but for the most part are not disillusioned Tea Partiers. They're disillusioned everythings. They are the culmination of decades of a GOP (and to a lesser extent, the democrats) that hasn't come through for them; whether it be on issues of immigration, the domestic economy, or foreign policy. So they've now been drawn to the candidate who has boiled down all of that frustration into one single authoritarian message: "We will win, and I will get my way on every policy issue".

    Both camps have been let down by the GOP, but for very different reasons. Zakaria sums it up pretty well in this column:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-gops-dishonesty-led-to-the-rise-of-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/2016/01/28/d0bfdf8c-c5fb-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html
    Bingo.

    This is why Trump sucks in closed primary states but dominates when they're open. He has just as much support outside of the GOP as he does inside of it.
    Which makes him a much bigger threat in a general election, than many people give him credit for.
    It might. The hard thing to decipher is just how much of the GOP electorate stays home/votes third party if Trump is the nominee. I don't think anybody really knows. There's a real possibility that a very large chunk just sits it out or votes Romney/whoever.

    The best thing for Trump would be Sanders winning the nomination, because the GOP would have to vote for him then. If it's Hillary I think a lot of people stay home.
    Most Trump v. Sanders polls have Feel the Bern winning
    If it happens and Sanders gets his ass handed to him, will you admit those who believed like you were dumbfucks?
    If it happens and Trump gets dumpstered by the Bern, will you finally kill yourself?
    It'll sure limit the ways for someone to kill themselves. After Bernie's tax plan gets introduced, few people will be able to afford guns, bullets, gas, matches, rope, pills, or electricity. I guess he could walk up multiple stories of a nearby office/apartment building and through himself off.
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