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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    If you are suggesting that not having a problem going through airport security is a sign of giving up freedoms and rights ... that's insane.

    Additional airport security and the TSA are fucking bullshit. Why don't small government types focus on shutting them down instead of social issue BS like PP and NPR??? Old ladies in wheelchairs getting strip searched. People with metal knees/hips being detained. Randomly deciding to hold people and pat them down inside their pants. Body scan images of naked bodies being leaked online. Do I really have to explain why this is a problem?

    We're also talking about data mining private info like emails, text messages, phone calls, etc. without a warrant.

    Edward Snowden has said repeatedly that the NSA has ALL of the dick pics. ALL OF THEM. Because they can, and nobody has stopped them. This sounds like a joke, but it's real.

    Now, that might not be a specific issue for you or me or anyone we know, but that's just an example of the shit they are collecting illegally. Throw in some assistance from the likes of Apple and Facebook (corps with massive user base) and they can see all kinds of shit about you.

    Getting patted down going into a sporting event has become commonplace. The TSA is joked about, but accepted. Your private communication is being collected and most people don't know. Or they're like you and they don't care because they think it makes them safe.

    Except it has not made anyone safer. It's a fucking illusion. Zero terror plots foiled. ZERO. Rights still taken away. And all the GOP candidates (except Rand, RIP) are doubling down on fear and extra security because of Paris and San Bernadino. The left gets criticized for blaming guns and wanting stricter gun control, but this is much worse IMHO. Not sure why the 2nd amendment is more important than the 4th, 5th, and 14th.

    tl;dr fuck off
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    And that's the difference ...

    You're focused on what has been done previously and looking at it from the standpoint that it hasn't worked so therefore it will never work ...

    I look at things from the standpoint of what is the underlying point and can it be improved for the desired result ...

    I 100% agree that the status quo is not executed in a way that makes any kind of sense ... but that doesn't mean that there can't be some value in what is being done.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    And that's the difference ...

    You're focused on what has been done previously and looking at it from the standpoint that it hasn't worked so therefore it will never work ...

    I look at things from the standpoint of what is the underlying point and can it be improved for the desired result ...

    I 100% agree that the status quo is not executed in a way that makes any kind of sense ... but that doesn't mean that there can't be some value in what is being done.

    This explains why you always support shitty football coaches.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    I took it again and feel the Bern was 93% again, Hills was 85 or something and now Jebediah was up to 60. Huckabee wasn't even near what he was the first time.

    It said something like center left authoritarian.

    To really d be as accurate as possible one should probably do all 10-15 questions from each section and slide the importance scale if applicable. I only did three on some and the full 12 or so on others and I forgot to check the importance scale half the time.

    We will appreciate the exponential redistribution of your wealth should we all feel the bern.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Woof said:

    salemcoog said:

    Thinking one case proves there are more cases. This is the generation with all those critical thinking skills I've been hearing about.

    Patiently waiting for any counterpoint that includes evidence that there are not cases of voter fraud.
    From a guy who studies voter fraud:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/

    Our apathetic citizenry can barely vote once, let alone fraudulently register and vote multiple times. This shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Democrats want to make it as easy as possible for people to register and vote so they can turn out the lazy and unemployed. Republicans want to suppress the vote to prevent these same people from voting against them. Screw all of our failed leaders for letting it get to this point (similar to what flea said).
    Their talking point from this will be "31 cases! We told you it was an epidemic!".
    Baskin and Robbins appreciates your input.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Tequilla said:

    If you are suggesting that not having a problem going through airport security is a sign of giving up freedoms and rights ... that's insane.

    Additional airport security and the TSA are fucking bullshit. Why don't small government types focus on shutting them down instead of social issue BS like PP and NPR??? Old ladies in wheelchairs getting strip searched. People with metal knees/hips being detained. Randomly deciding to hold people and pat them down inside their pants. Body scan images of naked bodies being leaked online. Do I really have to explain why this is a problem?

    We're also talking about data mining private info like emails, text messages, phone calls, etc. without a warrant.

    Edward Snowden has said repeatedly that the NSA has ALL of the dick pics. ALL OF THEM. Because they can, and nobody has stopped them. This sounds like a joke, but it's real.

    Now, that might not be a specific issue for you or me or anyone we know, but that's just an example of the shit they are collecting illegally. Throw in some assistance from the likes of Apple and Facebook (corps with massive user base) and they can see all kinds of shit about you.

    Getting patted down going into a sporting event has become commonplace. The TSA is joked about, but accepted. Your private communication is being collected and most people don't know. Or they're like you and they don't care because they think it makes them safe.

    Except it has not made anyone safer. It's a fucking illusion. Zero terror plots foiled. ZERO. Rights still taken away. And all the GOP candidates (except Rand, RIP) are doubling down on fear and extra security because of Paris and San Bernadino. The left gets criticized for blaming guns and wanting stricter gun control, but this is much worse IMHO. Not sure why the 2nd amendment is more important than the 4th, 5th, and 14th.

    tl;dr fuck off
    Rand and Sanders are/were the only 2 in this race carrying that flag. One of if not the biggest reasons for my support. I really hope the GOP goes Libertarian soon, but fear mongering will likely continue to win out unfortunately
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,601 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    If you are suggesting that not having a problem going through airport security is a sign of giving up freedoms and rights ... that's insane.

    Additional airport security and the TSA are fucking bullshit. Why don't small government types focus on shutting them down instead of social issue BS like PP and NPR??? Old ladies in wheelchairs getting strip searched. People with metal knees/hips being detained. Randomly deciding to hold people and pat them down inside their pants. Body scan images of naked bodies being leaked online. Do I really have to explain why this is a problem?

    We're also talking about data mining private info like emails, text messages, phone calls, etc. without a warrant.

    Edward Snowden has said repeatedly that the NSA has ALL of the dick pics. ALL OF THEM. Because they can, and nobody has stopped them. This sounds like a joke, but it's real.

    Now, that might not be a specific issue for you or me or anyone we know, but that's just an example of the shit they are collecting illegally. Throw in some assistance from the likes of Apple and Facebook (corps with massive user base) and they can see all kinds of shit about you.

    Getting patted down going into a sporting event has become commonplace. The TSA is joked about, but accepted. Your private communication is being collected and most people don't know. Or they're like you and they don't care because they think it makes them safe.

    Except it has not made anyone safer. It's a fucking illusion. Zero terror plots foiled. ZERO. Rights still taken away. And all the GOP candidates (except Rand, RIP) are doubling down on fear and extra security because of Paris and San Bernadino. The left gets criticized for blaming guns and wanting stricter gun control, but this is much worse IMHO. Not sure why the 2nd amendment is more important than the 4th, 5th, and 14th.

    tl;dr fuck off
    People wonder how Roberts flipped on Obunghole care? Could it be the NSA having every phone call and email etc. of everyone on file? Does anyone think that can't be used for blackmail?

    Nothing burns my ass like all these whining commie asshats! Yes communists. They use code words like "progressive, socialist" etc. but it's communist drivel. It's a free country and Cuba's only 90 miles head on over to that workers paradise if that's what you want but people that believe in this crap and Bernie don't belong here.

    How people could back a political system responsible for over 100 million deaths last century is beyond me.