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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,542 Standard Supporter
    Fenderbender123 said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Lol at the ~80% of Libertarians against mandatory vaccinations.

    I get this argument. But think about it...violence and coersion aren't the only means of influencing people to do something. Easily more than 80% of libertarians believe that children should be vaccinated.
    I believe kids should get vaccinated because kids, if not coat-hangered in the third trimester, should be given a chance to live. I don't need the fucking government to tell me that.

    But I do need the fucking government to make all those dumbfucks who SHOULD have coathangered their babies and don't like their kids living longer to get theirs vaccinated so I"m not just paying for their WIC program AND their healthcare more than absolutely necessary.

    That's the wrong direction, though. Your main issue should be with WIC and Medicaid, and by endorsing mandatory vaccinations you are indirectly supporting those social programs.
    I'm supporting more coat-hangering by dumbfucks in the third trimester.

    If the little fucks make it out, give them a shot.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Tequilla said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    95% Feelin the Bern.

    So you're a lazy gubermint saggy tit sucker. Fuck you
    Sorry, no. I assume I scored so well with Bernie (and Paul was my top GOP) because I think the NSA is shitting on our privacy rights (for no gain), our foreign policy is retarded, and that corporate campaign contributions and gerrymandering are corrupt and undemocratic.

    Also, I have a LOT more money than you do.

    Is it Friday yet?
    Is the NSA not gaining because it is infringing on privacy or because we're not utilizing it effectively?

    Although we all have our own skeletons one way or another, I guess I look at privacy as the type of thing that it's not a huge issue if you have nothing to hide. And in a world where "the enemy" is completely changing the way in which the game is played, you have to change the way that you think about the game as well.

    I guess what I'm saying is that I don't have a problem standing in line at the airport for an hour to go through security if it is being done effectively. And likewise, I don't have a problem with people scanning through my phone records for messages or calls that I may make. I don't have anything to hide in that regard and if somehow I am in communication with someone that does have something to hide and get contacted, then I'd be interested in doing what I could do to my part.
    good grief
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Fenderbender123 said:

    Tequilla said:


    That being said, I've got no problem sacrificing some rights for greater security.

    Go ahead and sacrifice them, then. That's fine. But if you want to make me sacrifice mine, you're an asshole.
    That's a very fair point ... hadn't really thought about it from that perspective.
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  • seatownfunk
    seatownfunk Member Posts: 807
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    I'm shaking and about to vomit
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,245 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    95% Feelin the Bern.

    So you're a lazy gubermint saggy tit sucker. Fuck you
    Sorry, no. I assume I scored so well with Bernie (and Paul was my top GOP) because I think the NSA is shitting on our privacy rights (for no gain), our foreign policy is retarded, and that corporate campaign contributions and gerrymandering are corrupt and undemocratic.

    Also, I have a LOT more money than you do.

    Is it Friday yet?
    No cunt you dont
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    95% Feelin the Bern.

    So you're a lazy gubermint saggy tit sucker. Fuck you
    Sorry, no. I assume I scored so well with Bernie (and Paul was my top GOP) because I think the NSA is shitting on our privacy rights (for no gain), our foreign policy is retarded, and that corporate campaign contributions and gerrymandering are corrupt and undemocratic.

    Also, I have a LOT more money than you do.

    Is it Friday yet?
    No cunt you dont
    Sounds like something a poor person would say.
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  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    edited February 2016
    Tequilla said:

    I would never give up freedoms ... that's insane.

    And I don't at all buy that giving law enforcement the opportunity to protect is a sacrificing of liberties if done correctly. Knowing all of my conversations, what I send by email, etc., is insane and doesn't need to happen without a warrant. Cross checking my calls against other numbers, etc. in the form of data I don't find as a problem.

    Some may have a problem with people even knowing who they are talking to. I don't. Some may hate airport security. I can live with it. Some things are inconveniences but they are far from deal breakers to me.

    You just said you'd have "no problem giving up some rights." If you have a right to free speech you have freedom of speech. I'm sure you'll write a TL;DR about the difference between rights and freedoms. But there's a reason it's called the Bill of Rights and each amendment is broken down as a "freedom." i.e. freedom of speech.

    For example, the 4th Amendment. You know, the one that gives you the freedom to travel within the country unmolested unless provided a search warrant first, obtained by a judge for a specific reason? You would never give up freedoms, eh? So I take it you've stopped all domestic air travel since 9/11 since you would never give up your 4th Amendment freedoms. Right? Or do you believe that simply traveling on a moving air vehicle is "probable cause"?
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Look at all these TUFF guys here that are sick and tired of their tax dollars going to programs like WIC.

    Christ
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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,245 Founders Club
    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    95% Feelin the Bern.

    So you're a lazy gubermint saggy tit sucker. Fuck you
    Sorry, no. I assume I scored so well with Bernie (and Paul was my top GOP) because I think the NSA is shitting on our privacy rights (for no gain), our foreign policy is retarded, and that corporate campaign contributions and gerrymandering are corrupt and undemocratic.

    Also, I have a LOT more money than you do.

    Is it Friday yet?
    No cunt you dont
    Sounds like something a poor person would say.
    the projection is strong in this 1
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    DuckHHunterisafag said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    95% Feelin the Bern.

    So you're a lazy gubermint saggy tit sucker. Fuck you
    Sorry, no. I assume I scored so well with Bernie (and Paul was my top GOP) because I think the NSA is shitting on our privacy rights (for no gain), our foreign policy is retarded, and that corporate campaign contributions and gerrymandering are corrupt and undemocratic.

    Also, I have a LOT more money than you do.

    Is it Friday yet?
    No cunt you dont
    Sounds like something a poor person would say.
    the projection is strong in this 1
    Go pick my cotton, boy.
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