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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited January 2016
    HuskyClaws said:

    Swaye said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    I don't fully hate Chin... but what the fuck? His hands are 'okay' (let's the ball get to his body on his highlight reel, which should not happen in HS); and even though he's 6-2, most of that is neck.

    He weighs 145 and he didn't run the 100m, so he's not 'fast' fast.

    Also, he was literally a plan F (assuming we were taking 2) WR:

    1. Vaughns
    2. Harry
    3. Fehoko
    4. McKinley
    5. Crawford
    6. Omotosho
    7. McKnight
    8. CTY
    9. Johnny "fuck you I'm going to Colorado" Huntley
    10. Fuller
    11. Two Chins

    This post makes me want to kill something. We got our 10th and 11th options. Maybe one of those two will turn into a serviceable WR in a couple years. But we need help now. Impact kid. How is it that we can recruit D so fucking well, and literally not even get plan B WRs to look at us. We are taking plan C/D guys. Fuck Pease, and fuck Peterman for hiring him. Nice experiment assface.
    Let's have a little perspective here. Fuller was offered back in January of 2015 and committed in July. He was clearly a priority for the staff. He was a plan A guy for them, not a plan D, 10th option guy.

    That being said, I really don't know what they see in him. He's my least favorite recruit of the class. The only things that give me hope are:
    -He was a top priority for the staff
    -Had offers from Wisconsin, Northwestern, Houston, and Iowa.
    -Extremely productive in a good league.

    His film blows though. Nothing stands out at all.
    Why do you introduce facts into my good rant? It's like a guy can't just flip the fuck out around here anymore.

    edit: And yeah, no matter how you Kimbo Slice it, Fuller licks balls.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    I forgot that we missed on Chase Claypool, too.
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    UW: a championship level PAC-12 RB, a bottom division PAC-12 OL, and a Big Sky receiving corp
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    bananasnblondes said:

    tvoie said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    @DDY, has Peterson recruited and developed any pieces of shit yet? If Coach Pete is who we think he is, Chin will be solid... Or not, either way it will be interesting

    Name one receiver he's recruited so far that is awesome.
    Sadly I can't think of a single one. I had hoped Renfro would be that guy and he was invisible.
    Renfro could still be good. Let's not write off the true frosh who was the 5th or 6th WR just because he didn't tear it up his first year.
    WR is one of the few positions where true frosh often make an impact, like RB. Why? Because those positions allow instincts and athletic ability to mask technical deficiencies.

    If Renfro was "a great one," his splash would've been a little bigger. Think Reggie Williams. Could still be "good" though.
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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Our lowest rated offensive commitsgrayshirt candidates are Nick Harris, Jordan Chin and Aaron Fuller.

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,142
    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.

    Typical BSU recruit who makes the NFL after being coached up. Pete is good with projects , and if he is who we think he is I can see Chin be solid by his junior season
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,314 Founders Club
    HuskyClaws said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Our lowest rated offensive commits are Nick Harris, Jordan Chin and Aaron Fuller.
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    Thought this was interesting about Nick Harris... At one of the combines, he did the SPARQ testing and finished with a 90.6 rating, #1 at that combine. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/204549/nick-harris

    If you compare how that 90.6 stacks up against the elite of the elite at The Opening, he would have finished as the 2nd best OL guy behind Landon Dickerson, who happens to be a 5-star and #17 player overall in the country by 247 http://247sports.com/Player/Landon-Dickerson-76786
    http://www.studentsports.com/football/2015/07/08/nike-football-rating-national-championship-results/

    The other thing about Nick Harris is that I'm pretty sure he's only 16, so he's a year behind everyone else in his grade age-wise.

    He intrigues me as a prospect.



    So you like them really young?
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.

    How tall is he?

    I've seen him listed anywhere from 5' 11.5" to 6'2" and from 149 lbs to 175 lbs. Then again, these measurements could be from different years and different camps, but what is a good, reliable source to judge height and weight by?
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.

    How tall is he?

    I've seen him listed anywhere from 5' 11.5" to 6'2" and from 149 lbs to 175 lbs. Then again, these measurements could be from different years and different camps, but what is a good, reliable source to judge height and weight by?
    Usually a good guess is to take the smallest listed height/weight on any of the sites and subtract another 1" and 10-15 lbs.

    In Chin's particular case it is pretty obvious that he hit a late growth spurt and his body hasn't caught up yet so he could legitimately be 6'1" and 170 lbs. or more and the reason for the wide range is that he was actually growing.

    We will find out in August when they release the roster.
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.

    How tall is he?

    I've seen him listed anywhere from 5' 11.5" to 6'2" and from 149 lbs to 175 lbs. Then again, these measurements could be from different years and different camps, but what is a good, reliable source to judge height and weight by?
    A tape measure and a scale?

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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Chin is a project. He's kind of awkward and growing into his body. I agree with Dennis' that he doesn't look to have the smoothest hands. I don't hate him though. I think he has a chance. He's fairly tall, possibly still growing, and has deceptive speed. Unlike guys like Campbell and Hall, Chin might be able to make some plays downfield.

    I'm placing $50 on Roadie saying Chin and Shit-Show in the same sentence no less than 5 times in the first 4 games he plays.
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    We'll surely be able to turn the poor performance of our offense around after this class... just hear me out!!!

    We got one decent OL, a crappy OL to make sure the decent one didn't decommit, a short, white tailback, the second best TE in Oregon who didn't play this year because of a back injury, a hyphen-name QB no one wanted and two shit-stains at WR.

    In 4-5 years our O is going to beast people!

    On the season Washington was 9th in points scored in the conference. The inexperienced O-line and true freshmen skill guys needed the first half of the season to gel. The Huskies averaged 38 points a game over the last 6 games of the season which was good for 4th best and within 1.5 and 3 points of second and third.

    For a good comparison lets use UCLA. They were @ 32.2 for the season a the Dawgs were 30.6. However the last 6 games they averaged only 28 points a game to the Huskies 38 points a game.

    I fully expect the Huskies to be in the top 4 teams in the Pac-12 for offense next season. Add to that our #1 ranked defense which should not be any worse than first or second in the Pac and our team is poised for a great 2016.

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    We'll surely be able to turn the poor performance of our offense around after this class... just hear me out!!!

    We got one decent OL, a crappy OL to make sure the decent one didn't decommit, a short, white tailback, the second best TE in Oregon who didn't play this year because of a back injury, a hyphen-name QB no one wanted and two shit-stains at WR.

    In 4-5 years our O is going to beast people!

    On the season Washington was 9th in points scored in the conference. The inexperienced O-line and true freshmen skill guys needed the first half of the season to gel. The Huskies averaged 38 points a game over the last 6 games of the season which was good for 4th best and within 1.5 and 3 points of second and third.

    For a good comparison lets use UCLA. They were @ 32.2 for the season a the Dawgs were 30.6. However the last 6 games they averaged only 28 points a game to the Huskies 38 points a game.

    I fully expect the Huskies to be in the top 4 teams in the Pac-12 for offense next season. Add to that our #1 ranked defense which should not be any worse than first or second in the Pac and our team is poised for a great 2016.

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  • devildawg
    devildawg Member Posts: 67
    Just think if they didn't shit the bed in that glory run against Utah and ASU that had solid Ds,the average woukd have been even better! Remember those 50 plus pass attempt games with the lead where Smiff got curb stomped in the 2nd half by real coaches ?
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    edited January 2016
    Baseman said:

    UW: a championship level PAC-12 RB, a bottom division PAC-12 OL, and a Big Sky receiving corp

    A bottom division O-line??? The same unit that started the season with 18 total starts among them, the majority of those starts belonging to 1 guy. The same unit that saw a true freshman left tackle take over his position a few games in? The same unit that led to a 10 point bump in points scored per game over the last 6 games of the season? The same unit that gelled and will come into 2016 young but experienced and ripping aholes open on opposing D lines this year? Doubt them. They will be the most improved unit on the field in 2016.

    And receivers? Maybe Coach Pete has a specific vision for his offense and values fast play makers that can play slot, out of the backfield and traditional route running over a group of fast tall receivers. I will admit one would be very nice and help our offense. But since you are not a coach for the team you have no idea how they assign value to receivers and what they want for their offensive schemes. They went after Fuller early on for a reason. He wasnt a plan B or C guy. Petersen runs a complex offense. That is another reason the team struggled early on with all those true freshmen learning his schemes. The offense uses a lot of movement and is more complex than throwing a lob bal to a tall receiver to go up and get.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,026 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    We'll surely be able to turn the poor performance of our offense around after this class... just hear me out!!!

    We got one decent OL, a crappy OL to make sure the decent one didn't decommit, a short, white tailback, the second best TE in Oregon who didn't play this year because of a back injury, a hyphen-name QB no one wanted and two shit-stains at WR.

    In 4-5 years our O is going to beast people!

    On the season Washington was 9th in points scored in the conference. The inexperienced O-line and true freshmen skill guys needed the first half of the season to gel. The Huskies averaged 38 points a game over the last 6 games of the season which was good for 4th best and within 1.5 and 3 points of second and third.

    For a good comparison lets use UCLA. They were @ 32.2 for the season a the Dawgs were 30.6. However the last 6 games they averaged only 28 points a game to the Huskies 38 points a game.

    I fully expect the Huskies to be in the top 4 teams in the Pac-12 for offense next season. Add to that our #1 ranked defense which should not be any worse than first or second in the Pac and our team is poised for a great 2016.

    The great thing about ending every season with Oregon State, Wazzu, and a shit tier bowl is it really spring boards are young and improving Dawgs towards the offseason natty.

    The bad thing about playing Oregon and Stanford by October is TSIO.
    You would think fans would stop falling for it but like Wiley Coyote they fall off the cliff every summer
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    edited January 2016
    The great thing about ending every season with Oregon State, Wazzu, and a shit tier bowl is it really spring boards are young and improving Dawgs towards the offseason natty.
    The bad thing about playing Oregon and Stanford by October is TSIO.


    Huskies don't win Natty's. They win National Championships. (2) A Natty is slang from a school that has 10,000 uniforms and no national championships.

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/utility/thumbnail/2150/cf://uploads/FileUpload/d3/c8aa34be1ebf63348c439be39c6016.jpg
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    devildawg said:

    Just think if they didn't shit the bed in that glory run against Utah and ASU that had solid Ds,the average woukd have been even better! Remember those 50 plus pass attempt games with the lead where Smiff got curb stomped in the 2nd half by real coaches ?

    Let's run the ball against the 3rd best run defense in the Pac 12. Sounds like a great game plan. Especially since ASU was also dead last in passing defense.
    #ACTUAL FACTS > ARMCHAIR COACH
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  • devildawg
    devildawg Member Posts: 67
    edited January 2016
    Ice_Holmvik said:

    devildawg said:

    Just think if they didn't shit the bed in that glory run against Utah and ASU that had solid Ds,the average woukd have been even better! Remember those 50 plus pass attempt games with the lead where Smiff got curb stomped in the 2nd half by real coaches ?

    Let's run the ball against the 3rd best run defense in the Pac 12. Sounds like a great game plan. Especially since ASU was also dead last in passing defense.
    #ACTUAL FACTS > ARMCHAIR COACH
    Did you watch the championship game dumbfuck? Clemson put 9 guys in the box didn't even try to hide the fact they were selling out to stop Henry! How'd that work out ? They kept giving it to Henry until.....Ooops lookie there the TE goes uncovered cuz the saftys were cheating all night!

    Don't me a Smiff!
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  • seatownfunk
    seatownfunk Member Posts: 807
    This thread has caused me to THINK and CARE
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    devildawg said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    devildawg said:

    Just think if they didn't shit the bed in that glory run against Utah and ASU that had solid Ds,the average woukd have been even better! Remember those 50 plus pass attempt games with the lead where Smiff got curb stomped in the 2nd half by real coaches ?

    Let's run the ball against the 3rd best run defense in the Pac 12. Sounds like a great game plan. Especially since ASU was also dead last in passing defense.
    #ACTUAL FACTS > ARMCHAIR COACH
    Did you watch the championship game dumbfuck? Clemson put 9 guys in the box didn't even try to hide the fact they were selling out to stop Henry! How'd that work out ? They kept giving it to Henry until.....Ooops lookie there the TE goes uncovered cuz the saftys were cheating all night!

    Don't me a Smiff!
    Why so angry? Now you went and hert my feelings. FaggottFace
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    Doogles said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    The great thing about ending every season with Oregon State, Wazzu, and a shit tier bowl is it really spring boards are young and improving Dawgs towards the offseason natty.
    The bad thing about playing Oregon and Stanford by October is TSIO.

    Huskies don't win Natty's. They win National Championships. (2) A Natty is slang from a school that has 10,000 uniforms and no national championships.

    http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/utility/thumbnail/2150/cf://uploads/FileUpload/d3/c8aa34be1ebf63348c439be39c6016.jpg
    Fuck you are knew hear. LEAVE!

    Agreed. Took this wayyyyyyy tooo sirius....Will work hard to post better in the futures.
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