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Wal-Mart to shutter 269 stores, 154 of them in the US

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Just look at the restaurant industry. No komo 4 link, but Tom Douglas was just talking about eliminating tips in all of his restaurants, and adding a "service fee" to your bill to make up the difference to meet the new $15 minimum wage.

    In other words, their wages effectively stay the same. AND they are no longer given an incentive to provide exceptional service, since the tip is guaranteed.

    Businesses that do that will fuck themselves.

    HTH
    Why would that help me? I don't own 1/3 of a fast food restaurant.

    But they're doing it. What's the other option? The majority of restaurants already fail. This won't make it any easier.

    First the $15 minimum wage isn't in effect yet.
    Second it's dumb to do it in specific locations like Seattle or city of SeaTac.

    That being said. My business is in Montana. Minimum wage went up right after we bought it from $5.15 to $7.25. My conservative partner freaked out at first. Until he realized that meant more disposable income for our key demographic. And our sales went up more than additional costs.

    I know, cool story bro.

    Fact is, businesses that try to fuck their employees will find shitty employees. Businesses that try to fuck their customers will end up with no customers. Take care of your employees and business and you will have a successful business.
    Not entirely, but it has been scaling up to the full $15. And it's already causing a problem.

    But the point, which as usual you have missed entirely, is that business owners will do whatever it takes to keep things running without cutting profits.

    Tom Douglas might be a celebrity chef blowhard POS, but from a business perspective, he is playing it smart. If his worker bees don't like it, guess what, there's a million other hipster faggots that can take a food order, mix a drink, or bake a cake (shoulda been pie) in this town that will fall in line. Sounds like a great environment for workers.

    What kills more restaurants I wonder; pissy liberal arts majors mad about wages, or customers that won't overpay for dinner?

    Hmmmmm...

    Businesses shouldn't fuck their employees or their customers. But if they have to choose between the two, employees can STFU or LEAVE.
    Either way it'll be interesting.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Just look at the restaurant industry. No komo 4 link, but Tom Douglas was just talking about eliminating tips in all of his restaurants, and adding a "service fee" to your bill to make up the difference to meet the new $15 minimum wage.

    In other words, their wages effectively stay the same. AND they are no longer given an incentive to provide exceptional service, since the tip is guaranteed.

    Businesses that do that will fuck themselves.

    HTH
    Why would that help me? I don't own 1/3 of a fast food restaurant.

    But they're doing it. What's the other option? The majority of restaurants already fail. This won't make it any easier.
    First the $15 minimum wage isn't in effect yet. Second it's dumb to do it in specific locations like Seattle or city of SeaTac.

    That being said. My business is in Montana. Minimum wage went up right after we bought it from $5.15 to $7.25. My conservative partner freaked out at first. Until he realized that meant more disposable income for our key demographic. And our sales went up more than additional costs.

    I know, cool story bro.

    Fact is, businesses that try to fuck their employees will find shitty employees. Businesses that try to fuck their customers will end up with no customers. Take care of your employees and business and you will have a successful business.
    If your key demographic is made up of minimum wage earners, I would suggest that you need to modify your business model, expand it to capture a more reliable demographic.

    You are absolutely correct with your last point, but government mandated minimum wages have nothing to do with how a business treats its employees and customers. To suggest it does is dishonest and simpleton.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    edited January 2016
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Just look at the restaurant industry. No komo 4 link, but Tom Douglas was just talking about eliminating tips in all of his restaurants, and adding a "service fee" to your bill to make up the difference to meet the new $15 minimum wage.

    In other words, their wages effectively stay the same. AND they are no longer given an incentive to provide exceptional service, since the tip is guaranteed.

    Businesses that do that will fuck themselves.

    HTH
    Why would that help me? I don't own 1/3 of a fast food restaurant.

    But they're doing it. What's the other option? The majority of restaurants already fail. This won't make it any easier.
    First the $15 minimum wage isn't in effect yet. Second it's dumb to do it in specific locations like Seattle or city of SeaTac.

    That being said. My business is in Montana. Minimum wage went up right after we bought it from $5.15 to $7.25. My conservative partner freaked out at first. Until he realized that meant more disposable income for our key demographic. And our sales went up more than additional costs.

    I know, cool story bro.

    Fact is, businesses that try to fuck their employees will find shitty employees. Businesses that try to fuck their customers will end up with no customers. Take care of your employees and business and you will have a successful business.
    Words of wisdom right there. Must have learned that in grad school. Now if government could start regulating customer service, all businesses would be set.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Wonder if Hondo works 70 hour weeks at his bidness...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Wonder if Hondo works 70 hour weeks at his bidness...

    Depends on the week. But I sure am not a slave to have a whopping 3 months of bills in the bank.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited January 2016
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Wonder if Hondo works 70 hour weeks at his bidness...

    Depends on the week. But I sure am not a slave to have a whopping 3 months of bills in the bank.
    I tend to keep it in a shoe box.

    #ChildOfTheDepression
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    HuskyJW said:

    Those 10,000 employees are on their knees thanking Obama, hondo style... that they've been freed from the chains of employment.

    When Walmart closes down, Macy's and JCPenney are gonna suuurge.

    Or they built them in places like Lake Oswego, OR.....where people wouldn't be caught dead a Walmart.
    I hear that people on this bored shop at Costco, what's the difference?
    A fucking lot