Coker was frozen in the pocket but managed to make the plays. I thought he was going to blow it. When he is on like MSU Bama rolls. When he isn't, its a nailbiter.
Dabo may be Rick - let's see how he does when Watson isn't there. The Vince Young comparisons were apt
Shades of Sark? Sark hardly ever lost close, when Sark lost he got destroyed. Shades of Peterman maybe.
Clemson played a damn good game. Perhaps you're just bitter because you decided Bama was shit once they lost to Ole Miss? That was nothing like a Sark game.
No, shades of Sark because Dabo was the sole reason Clemson lost. The game reminded me of when Sark lost to Stanford. The sole reason Clemson lost was discipline. If Saban and him switched rosters he would have lost by 21.
Never once in my life said Bama was shit. I've always said they were good. I didn't think Coker could lead them to a title, but he stepped up. Pretty big difference from saying they were shit. I've said Ole Miss is shit because they are.
Fire dabo!!!1!!1!!!!
Sometimes you just lose. It's the national title game. They played pretty good and lost.
Bama is good. They do shit like score touchdowns on kick offs.
Clemson was good too. They do shit like score touchdowns with white walk on wr's vs the secondary that basically everyone in the south tried to recruit out of high school.
People remember the blowouts and forget that Sark also lost close games squarely on his blunders and lack of detail at both UW and USC.
Clemson had so many blatant assignment errors and special teams gaffes. Alabama is a great team, but Clemson beat themselves. It was a poorly coached game. Don't be confused by Watson doing his best Vince Young comparison to make it look otherwise.
It's not comparing Dabo to Sark. Obviously Dabo is way better and he has built a very good program, maybe even a great one, but it was kind of amazing to watch a team in the title game be so undisciplined when all the talent was there to win the game.
@RaceBannon - I feel like an ass-hat defending Dabo because... I'M NOT A BIG DABO GUY... but... Rick took over TUFF Lambo players and made them enjoy football. Then when he got players that JUST wanted to enjoy football, we were UCLA with Washington athletes.
In Dabo's case he's built it up 'the right way' by taking over for Tommy BowdSark and slowly changing the culture.
Of course at a school like Clemson, one or two special players are going to make a huge difference. It's not a blue-blood school. A guy like Deshaun is a special player, but the whole team has good players and generally plays really well.
I think Clemson is basically 1 recruiting class away from having the kind of depth that you need to sustain the kind of injuries they've had.
Clemson's #1 and #3 WRs were out for that game and their 2 best players on D were either hobbled or out.
I think if you took Deshaun and put him on a team like Michigan you would see a very, very similar result; Oregon, etc...
Anyway, I take your point, but I don't think Dabo is just riding on Deshaun; as in, I don't think it's a Chizik situation or Neu situation where, once this guy's gone the whole fucking thing is over. I just think that naturally when you have the best QB in the history of your school (at one of these 2nd tier schools), the play will dip following that, until you get another guy just as good.
Didn't Dabo beat urban in the orange bowl without deshaun. Too lazy to look. Not the biggest Dabo fan because of his demeanor, but he built a legit top 10 program.
He is far from anything related to sark. And he is not saban. Bfd.
Done as much if not more than harbaugh in his college career who this board likes to place in high regard.
@RaceBannon - I feel like an ass-hat defending Dabo because... I'M NOT A BIG DABO GUY... but... Rick took over TUFF Lambo players and made them enjoy football. Then when he got players that JUST wanted to enjoy football, we were UCLA with Washington athletes.
In Dabo's case he's built it up 'the right way' by taking over for Tommy BowdSark and slowly changing the culture.
Of course at a school like Clemson, one or two special players are going to make a huge difference. It's not a blue-blood school. A guy like Deshaun is a special player, but the whole team has good players and generally plays really well.
I think Clemson is basically 1 recruiting class away from having the kind of depth that you need to sustain the kind of injuries they've had.
Clemson's #1 and #3 WRs were out for that game and their 2 best players on D were either hobbled or out.
I think if you took Deshaun and put him on a team like Michigan you would see a very, very similar result; Oregon, etc...
Anyway, I take your point, but I don't think Dabo is just riding on Deshaun; as in, I don't think it's a Chizik situation or Neu situation where, once this guy's gone the whole fucking thing is over. I just think that naturally when you have the best QB in the history of your school (at one of these 2nd tier schools), the play will dip following that, until you get another guy just as good.
Talent wise, Clemson is becoming a modern day blue blood. They have been had a lot of talent for awhile. And successful. This is their fifth year in a row winning 10+ games. No doubt that Deshaun is a special player, but they were good before him. They beat Ohio State in the Orange Bowl.
In general, he's a really good coach running a good program. I would love to think our coach kind of sucked, but we were going 13-1.
@RaceBannon - I feel like an ass-hat defending Dabo because... I'M NOT A BIG DABO GUY... but... Rick took over TUFF Lambo players and made them enjoy football. Then when he got players that JUST wanted to enjoy football, we were UCLA with Washington athletes.
In Dabo's case he's built it up 'the right way' by taking over for Tommy BowdSark and slowly changing the culture.
Of course at a school like Clemson, one or two special players are going to make a huge difference. It's not a blue-blood school. A guy like Deshaun is a special player, but the whole team has good players and generally plays really well.
I think Clemson is basically 1 recruiting class away from having the kind of depth that you need to sustain the kind of injuries they've had.
Clemson's #1 and #3 WRs were out for that game and their 2 best players on D were either hobbled or out.
I think if you took Deshaun and put him on a team like Michigan you would see a very, very similar result; Oregon, etc...
Anyway, I take your point, but I don't think Dabo is just riding on Deshaun; as in, I don't think it's a Chizik situation or Neu situation where, once this guy's gone the whole fucking thing is over. I just think that naturally when you have the best QB in the history of your school (at one of these 2nd tier schools), the play will dip following that, until you get another guy just as good.
Talent wise, Clemson is becoming a modern day blue blood. They have been had a lot of talent for awhile. And successful. This is their fifth year in a row winning 10+ games. No doubt that Deshaun is a special player, but they were good before him. They beat Ohio State in the Orange Bowl.
In general, he's a really good coach running a good program. I would love to think our coach kind of sucked, but we were going 13-1.
Arguing that Clemson is a 'modern day blue blood' is crazy IMO. Talented yes, but no more so than Mississippi.
Coaching matters. Players are talented, for sure, but nothing close to 'true' blue blood status like USC, Ohio State, Bama...
Miami in its heyday was a 'modern blue blood'. Clemson is not close to that talent wise.
Speaking of talent, some players from Clemson last few years: CJ Spillner Sammy Watkins DeAndre Hopkins Martavis Bryant DeQuan Bowers Stephon Anthony All have made a pro bowl.
Speaking of talent, some players from Clemson last few years: CJ Spillner Sammy Watkins DeAndre Hopkins Martavis Bryant DeQuan Bowers Stephon Anthony All have made a pro bowl.
The crazy thing is, that team lost its entire front seven from last year.
Speaking of talent, some players from Clemson last few years: CJ Spillner Sammy Watkins DeAndre Hopkins Martavis Bryant DeQuan Bowers Stephon Anthony All have made a pro bowl.
The crazy thing is, that team lost its entire front seven from last year.
Speaking of talent, some players from Clemson last few years: CJ Spillner Sammy Watkins DeAndre Hopkins Martavis Bryant DeQuan Bowers Stephon Anthony All have made a pro bowl.
The crazy thing is, that team lost its entire front seven from last year.
Which means they should be at least two years away from being special
Yes, I said that to myself when I heard that last night
Shades of Sark? Sark hardly ever lost close, when Sark lost he got destroyed. Shades of Peterman maybe.
Clemson played a damn good game. Perhaps you're just bitter because you decided Bama was shit once they lost to Ole Miss? That was nothing like a Sark game.
No, shades of Sark because Dabo was the sole reason Clemson lost. The game reminded me of when Sark lost to Stanford. The sole reason Clemson lost was discipline. If Saban and him switched rosters he would have lost by 21.
Never once in my life said Bama was shit. I've always said they were good. I didn't think Coker could lead them to a title, but he stepped up. Pretty big difference from saying they were shit. I've said Ole Miss is shit because they are.
You think Clemson's roster is 16 points of Saban better than Bama's roster?
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Dabo may be Rick - let's see how he does when Watson isn't there. The Vince Young comparisons were apt
Sometimes you just lose. It's the national title game. They played pretty good and lost.
Bama is good. They do shit like score touchdowns on kick offs.
Clemson was good too. They do shit like score touchdowns with white walk on wr's vs the secondary that basically everyone in the south tried to recruit out of high school.
Clemson had so many blatant assignment errors and special teams gaffes. Alabama is a great team, but Clemson beat themselves. It was a poorly coached game. Don't be confused by Watson doing his best Vince Young comparison to make it look otherwise.
It's not comparing Dabo to Sark. Obviously Dabo is way better and he has built a very good program, maybe even a great one, but it was kind of amazing to watch a team in the title game be so undisciplined when all the talent was there to win the game.
I don't think it's really that hard to get. I forget some of you are such fucking stupid doogs who take everything literal.
Btw, how did LSU end up doing? I thought they were going to buttfuck everyone and didn't need a QB? What happened?
My pick for next year's champs
In Dabo's case he's built it up 'the right way' by taking over for Tommy BowdSark and slowly changing the culture.
Of course at a school like Clemson, one or two special players are going to make a huge difference. It's not a blue-blood school. A guy like Deshaun is a special player, but the whole team has good players and generally plays really well.
I think Clemson is basically 1 recruiting class away from having the kind of depth that you need to sustain the kind of injuries they've had.
Clemson's #1 and #3 WRs were out for that game and their 2 best players on D were either hobbled or out.
I think if you took Deshaun and put him on a team like Michigan you would see a very, very similar result; Oregon, etc...
Anyway, I take your point, but I don't think Dabo is just riding on Deshaun; as in, I don't think it's a Chizik situation or Neu situation where, once this guy's gone the whole fucking thing is over. I just think that naturally when you have the best QB in the history of your school (at one of these 2nd tier schools), the play will dip following that, until you get another guy just as good.
Not the biggest Dabo fan because of his demeanor, but he built a legit top 10 program.
He is far from anything related to sark. And he is not saban. Bfd.
Done as much if not more than harbaugh in his college career who this board likes to place in high regard.
In general, he's a really good coach running a good program. I would love to think our coach kind of sucked, but we were going 13-1.
Coaching matters. Players are talented, for sure, but nothing close to 'true' blue blood status like USC, Ohio State, Bama...
Miami in its heyday was a 'modern blue blood'. Clemson is not close to that talent wise.
CJ Spillner
Sammy Watkins
DeAndre Hopkins
Martavis Bryant
DeQuan Bowers
Stephon Anthony
All have made a pro bowl.
Yes, I said that to myself when I heard that last night
Holy crap.