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final S&P+ ratings

BlowItUpBlowItUp Member Posts: 877
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I'll just leave this here

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Baseman said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Fucking bullshit. In what world are we 12th?

    This crap is so stupid.

    I seriously applaud the attempt to get more sophisticated metrics of football, but fucking come on.

    12 sounds about right. Per Aubs latest power ranking Stanford and UW are the top teams in the Pac12 and it's not even close.
    Quite frankly, our record wasn't indicative of how good we? really were this season.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,965
    Wins and losses matter.

    But at the same time, it's also not impossible to ignore the fact that we were an extremely young team on offense this year and really as a team with very few experienced playmakers when it came to making plays in tight spots.

    What you hope you see out of this team going forward is that they learn from some of their mistakes in close games this year about the importance of every single play, being smart about avoiding bad penalties, the importance of protecting the football, etc. There was improvement in these areas throughout the year.

    Most smart people said before the year that we'd be much better the back half of the year compared to the front and that there'd be games that we'd lose in the front half that we'd never lose as the season progressed. That happened. Nothing about this season was particularly surprising to me.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    These stats are very useful for evaluating the potential of a team. What they don't account for is the intangible ability to win close games, or "clutchness", for lack of a better term, which is of course critical in a sport like college football where anything more than one loss effectively eliminates you from national championship contention.

    The S&P numbers more or less mirror what any rational fan could see this year; our team was good enough to match up with anyone on our schedule, we just fucked ourselves consistently and lost too many games because of it. Folks like Auburndoog are adamant that this is 100% due to youth, and that improvement in the "clutchness" department will be linear as our players gain experience. Of course he completely ignores the possibility that our lack of "clutchness" stems from the coaching staff, and that this problem will not fade away with time. Next year will answer that question. A single-digit win season will mean our coaches have failed to develop a roster that has that intangible ability.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,965
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    These stats are very useful for evaluating the potential of a team. What they don't account for is the intangible ability to win close games, or "clutchness", for lack of a better term, which is of course critical in a sport like college football where anything more than one loss effectively eliminates you from national championship contention.

    The S&P numbers more or less mirror what any rational fan could see this year; our team was good enough to match up with anyone on our schedule, we just fucked ourselves consistently and lost too many games because of it. Folks like Auburndoog are adamant that this is 100% due to youth, and that improvement in the "clutchness" department will be linear as our players gain experience. Of course he completely ignores the possibility that our lack of "clutchness" stems from the coaching staff, and that this problem will not fade away with time. Next year will answer that question. A single-digit win season will mean our coaches have failed to develop a roster that has that intangible ability.

    This is a very good post that probably should be pinned as a response for people like @ThomasFremont that will pop off for the next 9+ months about something that can't be determined one way or another until next season.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    These stats are very useful for evaluating the potential of a team. What they don't account for is the intangible ability to win close games, or "clutchness", for lack of a better term, which is of course critical in a sport like college football where anything more than one loss effectively eliminates you from national championship contention.

    The S&P numbers more or less mirror what any rational fan could see this year; our team was good enough to match up with anyone on our schedule, we just fucked ourselves consistently and lost too many games because of it. Folks like Auburndoog are adamant that this is 100% due to youth, and that improvement in the "clutchness" department will be linear as our players gain experience. Of course he completely ignores the possibility that our lack of "clutchness" stems from the coaching staff, and that this problem will not fade away with time. Next year will answer that question. A single-digit win season will mean our coaches have failed to develop a roster that has that intangible ability.

    This is a very good post that probably should be pinned as a response for people like @ThomasFremont that will pop off for the next 9+ months about something that can't be determined one way or another until next season.
    I've already stated multiple times that I have seen enough out of Petersen. He's not a championship coach at this level, imho. Any statistical model this out of touch with reality (12th nationally vs 4th in our own division) is seriously pressing. But latch onto it if it makes you feel better about 7 wins.

    However, I've also been very clear that Pete can shut me the fuck up by winning the North/conference.

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  • BlowItUpBlowItUp Member Posts: 877
    Well the FEI ratings were just released and we were rated all the way down at 14th

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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Fucking bullshit. In what world are we 12th?

    This crap is so stupid.

    I seriously applaud the attempt to get more sophisticated metrics of football, but fucking come on.

    Maybe the formula doesn't account for your dumb fuck HC losing so many close, winnable games.

    Not letting you back on the bandwagon when our "dumb fuck" HC leads us to back to back Rose Bowls in '16 and '17.
    Oh no!
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  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    BlowItUp said:

    Well the FEI ratings were just released and we were rated all the way down at 14th

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    one thing is for sure: UW is the best 7-6 team by either measure
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  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,459
    Heads up @Tequilla , doog Baird hacked your account. Time to change yer password
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited January 2016
    I agree with the thread that UW being ranked 12th in anything is FS, but the teams behind us suck too. It doesn't really matter. The teams at the top would plunger us.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    These rankings also have Western Kentucky ranked ahead of USC, UNC, Oregon and TCU.

    Sounds 100% accurate...
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