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The Exodus at UCLA Continues

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  • Thump
    Thump Member Posts: 793
    PurpleJ said:

    "You shall not covet your neighbor's natties. You shall not covet your neighbor's Heisman, or his male or female fans, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to USC."

    Exodus 20:17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy6wkgjqeo0
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,796 Founders Club

    Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.

    The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach.

    I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    @PurpleJ nailed it.

    In Rick's 4 years UCLA was #67 in SRS. Mora turned it around very quickly and did a good job. Problem is he just couldnt get over the hump. Saying he's average means there are about 10-15 coaches who are above average.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    TTJ said:

    Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.

    Mora came to UCLA at the perfect time to break through that ceiling with USC stuck with sanctions and Pat HadenFS.

    He brought in a metric fuckton of talent and underachieved horribly.

    He would be smart to get out now while he is still employable as a head coach.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,139 Standard Supporter
    TTJ said:

    Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.

    It's as high or higher than any other school besides USC, including Oregon.

    They've just fucked up coaching hires lately. Mora is better than guys like Dorrell, but he's no Saban. I think Roaddawg probably has it about right. Mora is a good motivator and recruiter, but he was never a great tactician. He really needs to go find some genius, antisocial coordinator like Chimp to get to the top.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.

    I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    TTJ said:

    You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.

    I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.

    Iron rules?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,394 Standard Supporter

    Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.

    The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach.

    I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6
    He just lost to a 5-7 team and hasn't made the conference title game since year one despite bringing in better talent, but still.