You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
Again, for reasons that pass all human understanding, Mike Riley got the HC job in Nebraska after coaching Oregon State back to shittiness
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
Again, for reasons that pass all human understanding, Mike Riley got the HC job in Nebraska after coaching Oregon State back to shittiness
You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.
If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.
If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
On a day that we're watching #6 Stanford beat the shit out of #5 Iowa, after watching #2 Bama beat the living shit out of #3 Mich State last night, I don't think Nebraska's 5-7 record means a whole lot what's happening in Westwood, nor should it. I think Roady's right about the other points on Mora. Motivator, etc., and whomever said 9-10 wins is tops is about right. Mora's good, but not one of the greats. He's better than Sark ever was, because his commitment and authenticity showed through to his players, while Sark was transparently phony and mediocre in too many ways. Mora is what Sark wanted to be, but Mora is real whereas Sark was a paper tiger.
You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.
If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
Congratulations. UCLA is now almost* as serious about football as they rest of this unserious league.
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
Mike Reilly to Nebraska
But will TTJ be surprised when Riley doesn't win big at Nebraska?
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
Mike Reilly to Nebraska
But will TTJ be surprised when Riley doesn't win big at Nebraska?
Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.
The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach.
I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6
He just lost to a 5-7 team and hasn't made the conference title game since year one despite bringing in better talent, but still.
Couldn't even finish ahead of Sark/Helton, I think that about covers it.
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
UCLA lost to a 5-7 team coached by Mike Riley in the Chicken Bowl
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
Mora's good, but not one of the greats. He's better than Sark ever was, because his commitment and authenticity showed through to his players, while Sark was transparently phony and mediocre in too many ways. Mora is what Sark wanted to be, but Mora is real whereas Sark was a paper tiger.
* Admission standards, anyone?