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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    The Bills had arguably the best defense in football last year and now it's a dumpster fire with the same personnel. Rex Ryan changed their scheme from a 4-3 to a 3-4. When you have an elite 4-3 front 7 it's pretty silly to pigeonhole them into a misfit scheme. He's not a good coach.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    Rex Ryan is nothing special but if you aren't taking him over Jeff Fisher you're nuts.

    Jeff Fisher sucks ass.

    I'm not sure how Rex Ryan is better. Fisher has a better winning percentage and made a Super Bowl. Neither is good, but objectively, Fisher is better.
    Making the AFC championship game with Mark Sanchez is better than making the Super Bowl with Steve McNair.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    There is regime and scheme changes all the time in the NFL - what has happened to the bills isn't as uncommon as you may think
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,504 Founders Club
    Ryan is 52-58
    Fisher is 168-155

    Fisher is remarkable for the longevity of his mediocre career, He was 142-120 at the Oilers/Titans. He had a 56-24 run around his Super Bowl year. That is a very good NFL record but not sure it is good enough to get him all these years.

    But that run makes him better than Ryan. The Titans with McNair and George ran into the Ravens with Ray Lewis which stopped them from getting to more Super Bowls
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,385
    Ryan is 6 games under 500 for his career. Being average gets you a long career coaching in the league. Norv Turner coached 237 regular season gaymes. Record: 114–122–1 (.483)
    Plus 4-4 in the playoffs.

    They're always looking for the next Belichick or Carroll, who suck on the first and/or second run but somehow "get it" and then become great.
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  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Tequilla said:

    There is regime and scheme changes all the time in the NFL - what has happened to the bills isn't as uncommon as you may think

    I get that but that doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do. Buffalo has an elite 4-3 roster that would be miscast in a 3-4. Why wouldn't Rex just keep that going and then slowly change over to a 3-4 years later when those players move on?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    allpurpleallgold said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    Rex Ryan is nothing special but if you aren't taking him over Jeff Fisher you're nuts.

    Jeff Fisher sucks ass.

    I'm not sure how Rex Ryan is better. Fisher has a better winning percentage and made a Super Bowl. Neither is good, but objectively, Fisher is better.
    Making the AFC championship game with Mark Sanchez is better than making the Super Bowl with Steve McNair.
    This
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    Rex Ryan is nothing special but if you aren't taking him over Jeff Fisher you're nuts.

    Jeff Fisher sucks ass.

    I'm not sure how Rex Ryan is better. Fisher has a better winning percentage and made a Super Bowl. Neither is good, but objectively, Fisher is better.
    You want to argue Fisher's had a better career I'll grant you that. He's been a shit coach, shit poaster for well over a decade now. Whatever he did right with the Titans in the 90's/early 2000's sure as fuck doesn't work now. If I have to win a game tomorrow I'd rather have neither of them but I'd take Ryan over Fisher rather easily.

    Since Ryan became an HC Fisher is 40-53-1 (Ryan is 52-58). Fisher hasn't won a playoff game since 2003. Ryan has a 4-2 playoff record in that time.

    Ryan > today's Fisher
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    RaceBannon said:

    Ryan is 52-58
    Fisher is 168-155

    Fisher is remarkable for the longevity of his mediocre career, He was 142-120 at the Oilers/Titans. He had a 56-24 run around his Super Bowl year. That is a very good NFL record but not sure it is good enough to get him all these years.

    But that run makes him better than Ryan. The Titans with McNair and George ran into the Ravens with Ray Lewis which stopped them from getting to more Super Bowls

    Because Rex Ryan never coached against any Hall of Famers.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,504 Founders Club
    allpurpleallgold said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Ryan is 52-58
    Fisher is 168-155

    Fisher is remarkable for the longevity of his mediocre career, He was 142-120 at the Oilers/Titans. He had a 56-24 run around his Super Bowl year. That is a very good NFL record but not sure it is good enough to get him all these years.

    But that run makes him better than Ryan. The Titans with McNair and George ran into the Ravens with Ray Lewis which stopped them from getting to more Super Bowls

    Because Rex Ryan never coached against any Hall of Famers.
    This is true.
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