Miles Gaskin

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7 carries 1st quarter

11 carries 3 quarters

droggins

Saving him for the future. A running back only has so many carries.

Houhusky

its a throw away season, why wasted the limited number of carries he has?

Ins't that why we have the lindy, hall, wooching, and constantine packages?

TTJ

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristianCaple/status/665666466901983232

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TTJ said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristianCaple/status/665666466901983232

SameBS all year. Gaines 1 yard on 1st down, abandon the run

PurpleBaze

They ran him up the gut in the 2nd half. He's better off setting up his blockers and bouncing outside.

jecornel

Dhdawg can explain it. He is a little guy can't be a bell cow.

jecornel

PurpleBaze said:

They ran him up the gut in the 2nd half. He's better off setting up his blockers and bouncing outside.

But how do the coaches suck?

Chest?

PurpleBaze

jecornel said:

PurpleBaze said:

They ran him up the gut in the 2nd half. He's better off setting up his blockers and bouncing outside.

But how do the coaches suck?

Chest?

I can't wait for some #chestmetrics. <----------

MisterEm

#SoS
#SRS
#Ftarded

RoadDawg55

ASU did shut down the run, but Browning was hitting under 50 percent of his passes in the 2nd half too so there really is no excuse for the pass:rush disparity. It's been going on all year.

At this point, I would love to be balanced. We aren't at all balanced though. We are very pass heavy. It's not because of ASU selling out on the run, or Utah's front 7 being a lot better than their secondary. It's every fucking game.

It's obviously what Petersen wants to do, and everyone that doesn't have their head in their ass can read between the lines from his quotes about being happy the pass game overshadowed the run game against Arizona or being more stubborn with the run.

dhdawg

jecornel said:

Dhdawg can explain it. He is a little guy can't be a bell cow.

Please. I'm not gonna defend abandoning the run late in the game. That was fs. Also cooper should be getting carries

HeretoBeatmyChest

The pass/rush disparity is out of whack and we need to be more balanced.

But the idea that that would fix the problems or lead to immediate wins is really fucking stupid. This was always a 7, maybe 8-5 team at absolute best. (And they still have a shot to get to 7 wins as OSU is terrible and they match up with the Cougs very well). The metrics argue this is a 7-5 team against an average schedule, so fuck off with the "we could be or should be 7-3 or 8-2."

The egregious drops from the WRs cost us the game more so than completely abandoning the run in the second half. Then Browning really did shit his pants with his attitude and the entire team followed suit. Something is going on with Pease (ala Cozetto) if in 3 fucking classes they cant bring in one legit blue chip WR (Renfro is a converted safety). Thats a fucking problem, similar to Coz and the OL. The best coaches win because they recruit really well. Remember Race and DDY saying DJ had top 3 classes (in conference) in the late 80s? Bitch about play calling all you want but a major problem is pretty obvious when you have WRs that cant catch and you are on the cusp of 3 substandard WR classes in a row.

Ultimately, the "we just call plays" shit is not going to cut it in the long run. Pete probably ascribes the difficulties to youth and may not make a major offensive change for another year. Close games tend to even out over time and as this young group matures they will do better. But being 1-9 in games within a TD in the 4th quarter you cant help but think that stems from a larger issue.

This is only going to get more frustrating. This year it was "we could have won 8 games." Next year it will be "we could have won the North."

PurpleBaze

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

This is only going to get more frustrating. This year it was "we could have won 8 games." Next year it will be "we could have won the North."

I don't think this team is in danger of being anywhere near winning the North next year with this coaching staff.

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Fuck everything about this game.

Thump

nvm, I misread that.

PostGameOrangeSlices

RoadDawg55 said:

ASU did shut down the run, but Browning was hitting under 50 percent of his passes in the 2nd half too so there really is no excuse for the pass:rush disparity. It's been going on all year.

At this point, I would love to be balanced. We aren't at all balanced though. We are very pass heavy. It's not because of ASU selling out on the run, or Utah's front 7 being a lot better than their secondary. It's every fucking game.

It's obviously what Petersen wants to do, and everyone that doesn't have their head in their ass can read between the lines from his quotes about being happy the pass game overshadowed the run game against Arizona or being more stubborn with the run.

The stupid thing is, we ran the ball a lot last year.

Pete is trying his best to summon the ghost of Kellen Moore, but the shit ain't working. This isn't the Mountain West (although Kellen did win at Oregon in one of BSU's 2 legit games per year).

This team would be a lot better with a healthy Cyler Miles

Dennis_DeYoung

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

The pass/rush disparity is out of whack and we need to be more balanced.

But the idea that that would fix the problems or lead to immediate wins is really fucking stupid. This was always a 7, maybe 8-5 team at absolute best. (And they still have a shot to get to 7 wins as OSU is terrible and they match up with the Cougs very well). The metrics argue this is a 7-5 team against an average schedule, so fuck off with the "we could be or should be 7-3 or 8-2."

The egregious drops from the WRs cost us the game more so than completely abandoning the run in the second half. Then Browning really did shit his pants with his attitude and the entire team followed suit. Something is going on with Pease (ala Cozetto) if in 3 fucking classes they cant bring in one legit blue chip WR (Renfro is a converted safety). Thats a fucking problem, similar to Coz and the OL. The best coaches win because they recruit really well. Remember Race and DDY saying DJ had top 3 classes (in conference) in the late 80s? Bitch about play calling all you want but a major problem is pretty obvious when you have WRs that cant catch and you are on the cusp of 3 substandard WR classes in a row.

Ultimately, the "we just call plays" shit is not going to cut it in the long run. Pete probably ascribes the difficulties to youth and may not make a major offensive change for another year. Close games tend to even out over time and as this young group matures they will do better. But being 1-9 in games within a TD in the 4th quarter you cant help but think that stems from a larger issue.

This is only going to get more frustrating. This year it was "we could have won 8 games." Next year it will be "we could have won the North."

Renfro was recruited by everyone as a WR. Michigan State included.

He looks good. Chico sucks and Pounds sucks. But Pettis and Lenius looked good last year. They've regressed.

Is Jaydon better? Is any WR better than they were last year?

The problem is not the talent; it's the coaching.

Since I know Pete isn't going anywhere, I'd settle for a DOA'ing of Smith (that will never happen) and Pease (probably won't happen).

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PostGameOrangeSlices said:

RoadDawg55 said:

ASU did shut down the run, but Browning was hitting under 50 percent of his passes in the 2nd half too so there really is no excuse for the pass:rush disparity. It's been going on all year.

At this point, I would love to be balanced. We aren't at all balanced though. We are very pass heavy. It's not because of ASU selling out on the run, or Utah's front 7 being a lot better than their secondary. It's every fucking game.

It's obviously what Petersen wants to do, and everyone that doesn't have their head in their ass can read between the lines from his quotes about being happy the pass game overshadowed the run game against Arizona or being more stubborn with the run.

The stupid thing is, we ran the ball a lot last year.

Pete is trying his best to summon the ghost of Kellen Moore, but the shit ain't working. This isn't the Mountain West (although Kellen did win at Oregon in one of BSU's 2 legit games per year).

This team would be a lot better with a healthy Cyler Miles

I was with u until Cyler

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Dennis_DeYoung said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

The pass/rush disparity is out of whack and we need to be more balanced.

But the idea that that would fix the problems or lead to immediate wins is really fucking stupid. This was always a 7, maybe 8-5 team at absolute best. (And they still have a shot to get to 7 wins as OSU is terrible and they match up with the Cougs very well). The metrics argue this is a 7-5 team against an average schedule, so fuck off with the "we could be or should be 7-3 or 8-2."

The egregious drops from the WRs cost us the game more so than completely abandoning the run in the second half. Then Browning really did shit his pants with his attitude and the entire team followed suit. Something is going on with Pease (ala Cozetto) if in 3 fucking classes they cant bring in one legit blue chip WR (Renfro is a converted safety). Thats a fucking problem, similar to Coz and the OL. The best coaches win because they recruit really well. Remember Race and DDY saying DJ had top 3 classes (in conference) in the late 80s? Bitch about play calling all you want but a major problem is pretty obvious when you have WRs that cant catch and you are on the cusp of 3 substandard WR classes in a row.

Ultimately, the "we just call plays" shit is not going to cut it in the long run. Pete probably ascribes the difficulties to youth and may not make a major offensive change for another year. Close games tend to even out over time and as this young group matures they will do better. But being 1-9 in games within a TD in the 4th quarter you cant help but think that stems from a larger issue.

This is only going to get more frustrating. This year it was "we could have won 8 games." Next year it will be "we could have won the North."

Renfro was recruited by everyone as a WR. Michigan State included.

He looks good. Chico sucks and Pounds sucks. But Pettis and Lenius looked good last year. They've regressed.

Is Jaydon better? Is any WR better than they were last year?

The problem is not the talent; it's the coaching.

Since I know Pete isn't going anywhere, I'd settle for a DOA'ing of Smith (that will never happen) and Pease (probably won't happen).

If dropping Pease off the Aurora bridge would make these receivers 10% better than do it. Minimal improvement and you win a few more games.

PostGameOrangeSlices

section_332 said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

RoadDawg55 said:

ASU did shut down the run, but Browning was hitting under 50 percent of his passes in the 2nd half too so there really is no excuse for the pass:rush disparity. It's been going on all year.

At this point, I would love to be balanced. We aren't at all balanced though. We are very pass heavy. It's not because of ASU selling out on the run, or Utah's front 7 being a lot better than their secondary. It's every fucking game.

It's obviously what Petersen wants to do, and everyone that doesn't have their head in their ass can read between the lines from his quotes about being happy the pass game overshadowed the run game against Arizona or being more stubborn with the run.

The stupid thing is, we ran the ball a lot last year.

Pete is trying his best to summon the ghost of Kellen Moore, but the shit ain't working. This isn't the Mountain West (although Kellen did win at Oregon in one of BSU's 2 legit games per year).

This team would be a lot better with a healthy Cyler Miles

I was with u until Cyler

Cyler had a fucked up hip which hurt him both passing and running the ball