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https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-candidates-attend-rally-where-014821801.html
On Friday, three Republican presidential candidates — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — attended an event in Des Moines, Iowa, hosted by a controversial Colorado pastor who has frequently advocated against gay people, including that the government should put them to death.
The event, dubbed the National Religious Liberties Conference, was hosted by pastor Kevin Swanson, who delivered a fiery speech in which he said Biblical law calls for "homosexuals" to be executed.
"Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God."
Let's see what else Leviticus has to say:
“ ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head. “ ‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death. “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. “ ‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you. You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord , am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own. “ ‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’ ”
Leviticus 20:9-10, 13, 25-27 NIV
And my favorite:
“ ‘If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.
Leviticus 21:9 NIV
I'm just curious, why cherry pick?
That being said, these are from the point of the Lord through Moses. Jesus was clear that the Lord had reasons for these rules, but from his time forward, there was some changes, here is an example:
Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” “What did Moses command you?” he replied. They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
Mark 10:2-9 NIV
Discuss
On Friday, three Republican presidential candidates — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — attended an event in Des Moines, Iowa, hosted by a controversial Colorado pastor who has frequently advocated against gay people, including that the government should put them to death.
The event, dubbed the National Religious Liberties Conference, was hosted by pastor Kevin Swanson, who delivered a fiery speech in which he said Biblical law calls for "homosexuals" to be executed.
"Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God."
Let's see what else Leviticus has to say:
“ ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head. “ ‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death. “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. “ ‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you. You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord , am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own. “ ‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’ ”
Leviticus 20:9-10, 13, 25-27 NIV
And my favorite:
“ ‘If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.
Leviticus 21:9 NIV
I'm just curious, why cherry pick?
That being said, these are from the point of the Lord through Moses. Jesus was clear that the Lord had reasons for these rules, but from his time forward, there was some changes, here is an example:
Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” “What did Moses command you?” he replied. They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
Mark 10:2-9 NIV
Discuss
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CHRIST
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fuck off
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so I ca set hookers on fire then?
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Only if her dad is a priest.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:so I ca set hookers on fire then?
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oh yeah2001400ex said:
Only if her dad is a priest.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:so I ca set hookers on fire then?
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stupid bible -
Not surprised that Bill hates God along with America and SEC football.
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I don't hate America.PurpleJ said:Not surprised that Bill hates God along with America and SEC football.
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Fuck this country.
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Hondo sounds desperate
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You clearly don't get it.RaceBannon said:Hondo sounds desperate
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Your president is giving nukes to Westboro Baptist Church, Iran branch
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and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika! -
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH -
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama -
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama -
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Not surprised you missed the part about saving Israel. If they fight each other, netenyahu (or however you spell his name) will surely die with the rest of the country because every other middle eastern country has only one mission: destroy Israel.RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
HondoFS is just waiting for the chickens to come home to roost from Paster...er....
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Mission failure 3 times and counting.2001400ex said:
Not surprised you missed the part about saving Israel. If they fight each other, netenyahu (or however you spell his name) will surely die with the rest of the country because every other middle eastern country has only one mission: destroy Israel.RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
HoustonHusky said:
HondoFS is just waiting for the chickens to come home to roost from Paster...er....
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Do you expect them to fail 4 times?RaceBannon said:
Mission failure 3 times and counting.2001400ex said:
Not surprised you missed the part about saving Israel. If they fight each other, netenyahu (or however you spell his name) will surely die with the rest of the country because every other middle eastern country has only one mission: destroy Israel.RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Of course. Moogs gonna moog2001400ex said:
Do you expect them to fail 4 times?RaceBannon said:
Mission failure 3 times and counting.2001400ex said:
Not surprised you missed the part about saving Israel. If they fight each other, netenyahu (or however you spell his name) will surely die with the rest of the country because every other middle eastern country has only one mission: destroy Israel.RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Your talking about the Obama Plandoogsinparadise said:
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
*you'reRaceBannon said:
Your talking about the Obama Plandoogsinparadise said:
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Do you really expect an epic fail worse than Sark?RaceBannon said:
Of course. Moogs gonna moog2001400ex said:
Do you expect them to fail 4 times?RaceBannon said:
Mission failure 3 times and counting.2001400ex said:
Not surprised you missed the part about saving Israel. If they fight each other, netenyahu (or however you spell his name) will surely die with the rest of the country because every other middle eastern country has only one mission: destroy Israel.RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
Are you knew?WeAreAFatLesboSchool said:
*you'reRaceBannon said:
Your talking about the Obama Plandoogsinparadise said:
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood -
I don't hate Christianity, I loath all religions equally.
#ThinkAtheist #FreedomFromReligion -
Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East has been a failure, no doubt. His inaction in Syria has enabled the Russian intervention--though that isn't the "game changer" that people like to portray it as, the government is still getting pushed back.RaceBannon said:
Your talking about the Obama Plandoogsinparadise said:
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood
But my other point was that the traditional American policy of backing dictators, and playing regional powers off each other hasn't worked very well either. Support for Saddam in the 80s encouraged his push for regional supremacy, and then following the Gulf War we? inexplicably didn't support the Shi'a/Kurdish uprisings against him, laying the groundwork for the Iranians to enter Iraq post-2003 as allies of the new government.
And about Obama, if he were to bomb Assad, who's going to step in to counteract the role that ISIS and the other jihadi groups are playing? With ISIS, sure, he could start a ground war. But the first American POW that gets beheaded would trigger massive domestic dissent, and we'ed have to bring everyone home. -
You've officially joined APAG and AZDuck in the lemon party of my favorite liberals on the bored. Good chit.doogsinparadise said:
Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East has been a failure, no doubt. His inaction in Syria has enabled the Russian intervention--though that isn't the "game changer" that people like to portray it as, the government is still getting pushed back.RaceBannon said:
Your talking about the Obama Plandoogsinparadise said:
Worked so well we're still over there being shot at, and Europe is being inundated with refugees. Bravo. *golf clap*RaceBannon said:
The great thing about Reagan's plan was they kill each other. Not surprised you missed that.2001400ex said:
Race, after thinking about it, you are right. We should just nuke the whole middle East except for Israel. Fuck them Muslims. Modern day crusades.RaceBannon said:
And watched 1,000,000 Iraqis and 1,000,000 Iranians die.2001400ex said:
Your president gave Iran weapons.sarktastic said:and now sending American companies to Iran to help them build their first Nuke reactor.
Det to Amedika!
HTH
That's why Reagan is smarter than Obama
The only modern day crusade is being waged by your gay killing, women hating home boys from the mid east hood
But my other point was that the traditional American policy of backing dictators, and playing regional powers off each other hasn't worked very well either. Support for Saddam in the 80s encouraged his push for regional supremacy, and then following the Gulf War we? inexplicably didn't support the Shi'a/Kurdish uprisings against him, laying the groundwork for the Iranians to enter Iraq post-2003 as allies of the new government.
And about Obama, if he were to bomb Assad, who's going to step in to counteract the role that ISIS and the other jihadi groups are playing? With ISIS, sure, he could start a ground war. But the first American POW that gets beheaded would trigger massive domestic dissent, and we'ed have to bring everyone home.
