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I didn't think it was possible to enjoy a season any less than 2014

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

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    It's funny when I picture JFK Jr at the controls
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,476 Founders Club
    2014 was more enjoyable because of Sark after Dark. The BC game, the ASU hail mary game were highlights of the season and seared in my memory.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,748 Founders Club

    2014 was more enjoyable because of Sark after Dark. The BC game, the ASU hail mary game were highlights of the season and seared in my memory.

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,748 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    It's a massive over reaction in my mind to say that this season is less enjoyable than pick your favorite season in the last 10-15.

    There's a lot of things going right ...

    The things going wrong are just major fuckups right now ... some of it coaching some of it just players finding the best way to be fucked up losers at the worst time.

    What's going right this year:

    36th in SRS
    Points For: 240 (26.67 pts per game)
    Points Against: 169 (18.77 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +71

    What's going wrong:

    4-5 record
    2-4 in conference
    Failure to win close games
    Offensive playcalling

    The reality is that we're a young team showing positive signs but taking lumps. We're underperforming what the numbers would suggest that we should be at at this point.

    In some ways, this season reminds me a bit of the 1988 season that I vaguely remember in that we lost a ton of close games finishing at 6-5 overall and 3-5 in conference. The Seniors that played on the '91 team were either true or RS Freshman on this team. Some interesting stats from that team:

    25th in SRS
    Points For: 254 (23.1 pts per game)
    Points Against: 223 points (20.3 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +31

    The losses in conference that year were by 7, 1, 3, 3, and 1

    The following year in 1989 saw an 8-4 record and an improvement to 5-3 in conference. SRS went from 25th to 14th and total point differential for the year increased to +107. What followed from there were 3 straight Rose Bowls and a National Championship.

    There's some transformative things that need to happen in the program to continue to get things moving in the right direction. There's good reason for frustration ... but the numbers are showing positive signs and trends.

    Geezus H Crimminy, you can't see the forest for the trees.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,771
    Tequilla said:

    It's a massive over reaction in my mind to say that this season is less enjoyable than pick your favorite season in the last 10-15.

    There's a lot of things going right ...

    The things going wrong are just major fuckups right now ... some of it coaching some of it just players finding the best way to be fucked up losers at the worst time.

    What's going right this year:

    36th in SRS
    Points For: 240 (26.67 pts per game)
    Points Against: 169 (18.77 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +71

    What's going wrong:

    4-5 record
    2-4 in conference
    Failure to win close games
    Offensive playcalling


    The reality is that we're a young team showing positive signs but taking lumps. We're underperforming what the numbers would suggest that we should be at at this point.

    In some ways, this season reminds me a bit of the 1988 season that I vaguely remember in that we lost a ton of close games finishing at 6-5 overall and 3-5 in conference. The Seniors that played on the '91 team were either true or RS Freshman on this team. Some interesting stats from that team:

    25th in SRS
    Points For: 254 (23.1 pts per game)
    Points Against: 223 points (20.3 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +31

    The losses in conference that year were by 7, 1, 3, 3, and 1

    The following year in 1989 saw an 8-4 record and an improvement to 5-3 in conference. SRS went from 25th to 14th and total point differential for the year increased to +107. What followed from there were 3 straight Rose Bowls and a National Championship.

    There's some transformative things that need to happen in the program to continue to get things moving in the right direction. There's good reason for frustration ... but the numbers are showing positive signs and trends.

    Wins are the only thing that matters. Fuck off with your metrics and statistical bullshit. Quit moving the goal posts with the youth excuse. Yeah we are losers but still. Here are some stats that make me feel better. Dude has proven that he will consistently fuck up games with dumb decisions and cute play calling, just like Sark.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223

    Tequilla said:

    It's a massive over reaction in my mind to say that this season is less enjoyable than pick your favorite season in the last 10-15.

    There's a lot of things going right ...

    The things going wrong are just major fuckups right now ... some of it coaching some of it just players finding the best way to be fucked up losers at the worst time.

    What's going right this year:

    36th in SRS
    Points For: 240 (26.67 pts per game)
    Points Against: 169 (18.77 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +71

    What's going wrong:

    4-5 record
    2-4 in conference
    Failure to win close games
    Offensive playcalling

    The reality is that we're a young team showing positive signs but taking lumps. We're underperforming what the numbers would suggest that we should be at at this point.

    In some ways, this season reminds me a bit of the 1988 season that I vaguely remember in that we lost a ton of close games finishing at 6-5 overall and 3-5 in conference. The Seniors that played on the '91 team were either true or RS Freshman on this team. Some interesting stats from that team:

    25th in SRS
    Points For: 254 (23.1 pts per game)
    Points Against: 223 points (20.3 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +31

    The losses in conference that year were by 7, 1, 3, 3, and 1

    The following year in 1989 saw an 8-4 record and an improvement to 5-3 in conference. SRS went from 25th to 14th and total point differential for the year increased to +107. What followed from there were 3 straight Rose Bowls and a National Championship.

    There's some transformative things that need to happen in the program to continue to get things moving in the right direction. There's good reason for frustration ... but the numbers are showing positive signs and trends.

    Geezus H Crimminy, you can't see the forest for the trees.
    The reverse can also be said just as easily ...

    Wins and losses obviously matter ... to say that the record doesn't is asininely FS.

    That being said, if you can't see how there's progress in the program as a whole then you also aren't paying attention.

    The reality is that you can always poke to try to find something to complain about if you want to. That's true for just about any other program.

    I can only imagine how this board would be melting down if the season was going similar to what TCU has had. Everybody on this board says that they aren't expecting national championships but just want to get consistent 9 to 10 win seasons and competing for conference championships. I call total bullshit on that. If UW enters November undefeated and goes on the road, lays an egg, and loses by 20, there would be a decent subset of this board calling for people's heads to roll.

    And maybe that is somewhat the point ... we've talked about how TSIO since before it happened. 6 wins before the season was viewed as a very reasonable season by many ... 7 or 8 wins was viewed as Petersen being the right person going forward. There's still 3 very winnable games left. Let the fucking season play out before passing judgment.

    In my opinion, the reason that so many people have been losing their shit is because they are seeing so many close games and thinking 9-10 wins. It's these people that are moving the goal posts.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    No more Sark schadenfreude has put a damper on this season. Combined with rooting for a bland, boring team with no balls and football has been a bust this year.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's a massive over reaction in my mind to say that this season is less enjoyable than pick your favorite season in the last 10-15.

    There's a lot of things going right ...

    The things going wrong are just major fuckups right now ... some of it coaching some of it just players finding the best way to be fucked up losers at the worst time.

    What's going right this year:

    36th in SRS
    Points For: 240 (26.67 pts per game)
    Points Against: 169 (18.77 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +71

    What's going wrong:

    4-5 record
    2-4 in conference
    Failure to win close games
    Offensive playcalling

    The reality is that we're a young team showing positive signs but taking lumps. We're underperforming what the numbers would suggest that we should be at at this point.

    In some ways, this season reminds me a bit of the 1988 season that I vaguely remember in that we lost a ton of close games finishing at 6-5 overall and 3-5 in conference. The Seniors that played on the '91 team were either true or RS Freshman on this team. Some interesting stats from that team:

    25th in SRS
    Points For: 254 (23.1 pts per game)
    Points Against: 223 points (20.3 pts per game)
    Point Differential: +31

    The losses in conference that year were by 7, 1, 3, 3, and 1

    The following year in 1989 saw an 8-4 record and an improvement to 5-3 in conference. SRS went from 25th to 14th and total point differential for the year increased to +107. What followed from there were 3 straight Rose Bowls and a National Championship.

    There's some transformative things that need to happen in the program to continue to get things moving in the right direction. There's good reason for frustration ... but the numbers are showing positive signs and trends.

    Geezus H Crimminy, you can't see the forest for the trees.
    The reverse can also be said just as easily ...

    Wins and losses obviously matter ... to say that the record doesn't is asininely FS.

    That being said, if you can't see how there's progress in the program as a whole then you also aren't paying attention.

    The reality is that you can always poke to try to find something to complain about if you want to. That's true for just about any other program.

    I can only imagine how this board would be melting down if the season was going similar to what TCU has had. Everybody on this board says that they aren't expecting national championships but just want to get consistent 9 to 10 win seasons and competing for conference championships. I call total bullshit on that. If UW enters November undefeated and goes on the road, lays an egg, and loses by 20, there would be a decent subset of this board calling for people's heads to roll.

    And maybe that is somewhat the point ... we've talked about how TSIO since before it happened. 6 wins before the season was viewed as a very reasonable season by many ... 7 or 8 wins was viewed as Petersen being the right person going forward. There's still 3 very winnable games left. Let the fucking season play out before passing judgment.

    In my opinion, the reason that so many people have been losing their shit is because they are seeing so many close games and thinking 9-10 wins. It's these people that are moving the goal posts.
    Jesus, is this a Kim whoosh? 4-5 > 8-6 > 7-6 > 7-6 ...
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    It's 50/50 whoosh and serious ...

    Wins matter ...

    But the difference between 1-2 wins when you're projected to being a below average team and TSIO before the season starts really only matters in my mind if you aren't getting the extra 15 bowl practices and bowl game to get the extra experience for the younger players.

    Browning will be better off next year for the experience that he has had this year.

    Getting Gaskin experience while maintaining health is a paramount concern. Same with the young OL and other younger players in the program (notably Renfro). Defensively it's still about developing players and depth. I don't know the answer to the question, but does Qualls sit out the Utah game if we're in a position where we're competing for the top of the conference?

    I'm not trying to excuse the losses ... but at the same time, there is a bigger picture that needs to be looked at as well.