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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
    Do you have any convincing evidence as to why it works in every other 1st world country, but wouldn't work here?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
    Do you have any convincing evidence as to why it works in every other 1st world country, but wouldn't work here?
    Read your own thread.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    I'll take that as a no.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    You want an unbiased study for either side of the argument? Good luck. They're all funded by special interests groups. You want empirical evidence of how something similar would work in the US? Take a look at Medicare/Medicaid and the ACA. Medicare/Medicaid accounts for about 35% of healthcare spending, and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.

    All the more reason to get the for profit model out of our health care.

    Like every other 1st world country has done.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.

    All the more reason to get the for profit model out of our health care.

    Like every other 1st world country has done.
    It's all fun and games until your doctors can't pay off their medical schooling and you lack the funding to do research into curing diseases.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    I hope Hilldog comes for the guns just to troll the bored.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778

    I hope Hilldog comes for the guns just to troll the bored.

    Her own party won't even elect her. Which is saying something. Ham sandwich and all that.