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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    sarktastic said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    sarktastic said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
    Do you have any convincing evidence as to why it works in every other 1st world country, but wouldn't work here?
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    sarktastic said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    US is ranked 37th in overall care but first in expenditure. Healthscare is about 18% of GDP.

    When you remove the expenses for those receiving free care and rerun the numbers, how do we rank?
    I don't know, but Single Payer would save a lot of money and eliminate that problem.
    You like to say that adding more bureaucracy to health care would make it cheaper. You do that.
    Do you have any convincing evidence as to why it works in every other 1st world country, but wouldn't work here?
    Read your own thread.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    I'll take that as a no.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    You want an unbiased study for either side of the argument? Good luck. They're all funded by special interests groups. You want empirical evidence of how something similar would work in the US? Take a look at Medicare/Medicaid and the ACA. Medicare/Medicaid accounts for about 35% of healthcare spending, and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    PurpleJ said:

    and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.

    All the more reason to get the for profit model out of our health care.

    Like every other 1st world country has done.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    and most of it is on unnecessary operations pushed through by the guys making money off it.

    All the more reason to get the for profit model out of our health care.

    Like every other 1st world country has done.
    It's all fun and games until your doctors can't pay off their medical schooling and you lack the funding to do research into curing diseases.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    I hope Hilldog comes for the guns just to troll the bored.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    doogsinparadise said:

    I hope Hilldog comes for the guns just to troll the bored.

    Her own party won't even elect her. Which is saying something. Ham sandwich and all that.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Christ.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
    Oh, so you're just going to take more of my money to pay for this free shit.

    At least you're honest.
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
    Oh, so you're just going to take more of my money to pay for this free shit.

    At least you're honest.
    If you don't want to pay taxes, don't live in a first world country.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
    Oh, so you're just going to take more of my money to pay for this free shit.

    At least you're honest.
    If you don't want to pay taxes, don't live in a first world country.
    It sounds like you would make a great Canadian. Mulcair might be a bit too conservative for you, but you'll get over it.
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    FREE PUB >>>>>> Free money
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    OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
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    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
    Oh, so you're just going to take more of my money to pay for this free shit.

    At least you're honest.
    If you don't want to pay taxes, don't live in a first world country.
    It sounds like you would make a great Canadian. Mulcair might be a bit too conservative for you, but you'll get over it.
    The weather is better down here. And we will get there. The progressives will win. With guys like Trump and the Tea Party destroying the Republican party -- the progressives can't lose.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    OZONE said:

    The funding to cure diseases would be bigger with big pharma and the insurance companies cut out of the pie.

    No question education costs need to come down. I think Bernie has a plan for that.

    Where can I get some of the free money you are giving out?
    Who said anything about free money?

    You guys act like this shit isn't already working in all of the other 1st world countries.
    Oh, so you're just going to take more of my money to pay for this free shit.

    At least you're honest.
    If you don't want to pay taxes, don't live in a first world country.
    It sounds like you would make a great Canadian. Mulcair might be a bit too conservative for you, but you'll get over it.
    The weather is better down here. And we will get there. The progressives will win. With guys like Trump and the Tea Party destroying the Republican party -- the progressives can't lose.
    I'm hearing the weather in Mexico is even better.


    LEAVE!



    (you're right about Trump though, FTG)
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    Progressive?
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