High School Injuries and Deaths

Tequilla

http://usatodayhss.com/2015/seattle-football-injuries-tackling-head-neck

The number of HS deaths this year have been absolutely staggering. I can't recall a time when there has been as many deaths, as well as significant injuries of the life-altering variety.

Is it possible that with the prevalence of the spread offenses and whatnot that the game is getting too fast and therefore too violent without enough checks and balances in place?

Does the sport need another level of review to it similar to the one called by Teddy Roosevelt 110 years ago? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/teddy-roosevelt-saved-football-111146?o=0

TierbsHsotBoobs

Tequilla said:

http://usatodayhss.com/2015/seattle-football-injuries-tackling-head-neck

The number of HS deaths this year have been absolutely staggering. I can't recall a time when there has been as many deaths, as well as significant injuries of the life-altering variety.

Is it possible that with the prevalence of the spread offenses and whatnot that the game is getting too fast and therefore too violent without enough checks and balances in place?

Does the sport need another level of review to it similar to the one called by Teddy Roosevelt 110 years ago? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/teddy-roosevelt-saved-football-111146?o=0

It's not the speed of the game.

It's the stupidity of the defenders that lower their heads looking for a big hit.

We've learned nothing from Curtis Williams (RIP)

dnc

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Tequilla said:

http://usatodayhss.com/2015/seattle-football-injuries-tackling-head-neck

The number of HS deaths this year have been absolutely staggering. I can't recall a time when there has been as many deaths, as well as significant injuries of the life-altering variety.

Is it possible that with the prevalence of the spread offenses and whatnot that the game is getting too fast and therefore too violent without enough checks and balances in place?

Does the sport need another level of review to it similar to the one called by Teddy Roosevelt 110 years ago? http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/09/teddy-roosevelt-saved-football-111146?o=0

It's not the speed of the game.

It's the stupidity of the defenders that lower their heads looking for a big hit.

We've learned nothing from Curtis Williams (RIP)

Fuck high school sports people, get your shit together! Or put @Blackie in charge!

Doogles

It's probably all the rules designed for safety that are making guys think more and do unnatural movements that result in getting crushed.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Doogles said:

It's probably all the rules designed for safety that are making guys think more and do unnatural movements that result in getting crushed.

Not the case.

You keep your head up, you don't break your neck.

You do dumb shit like this, you end your career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEccmg4JRbE

The rules for safety are trying to prevent dumbasses from hurting themselves.

CuntWaffle

Back in my brief FB career (Hi AOG!) if we ever lowered our head to try and spear a guy the next practice the coach would make that player run until he puked.

I thought back then they were just being assholes. I remember my miserable day I had to do this and I told the coach that this was bullshit we had to go until we puked. He told me "if you keep doing what your doing you will be puking anyways"

Didn't get it at the time now it all makes sense.

Tequilla

I think that there's a lot tied into the lack of fundamentals as well as the thinking that goes into what is and isn't a hit.

There was a play during the TAMU game that resulted in an ejection stemming from a WR block. Go to the 4:25 mark in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVux410KTsA

Not sure what the answer is ... but there's got to be something out there to keep away from so many of these situations ...

BTW, the 5:10 mark shows a glimpse of what we're missing with Hall.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Tequilla said:

Not sure what the answer is ... but there's got to be something out there to keep away from so many of these situations ...

Block and tackle people with your torso, not your head. As a bonus, don't go headhunting your opponents.

This isn't rocket surgery.

whatshouldicareabout

Tequilla said:

I think that there's a lot tied into the lack of fundamentals as well as the thinking that goes into what is and isn't a hit.

There was a play during the TAMU game that resulted in an ejection stemming from a WR block. Go to the 4:25 mark in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVux410KTsA

Not sure what the answer is ... but there's got to be something out there to keep away from so many of these situations ...

BTW, the 5:10 mark shows a glimpse of what we're missing with Hall.

You should've linked us to Perkin's block against Cal last year on the long John Ross pass that got him ejected for "targeting a defenseless player"

GrundleStiltzkin

The sooner HS coaches transition to the "rugby tackle" technique, the better.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-the-nfl-can-learn-from-rugby-1442335267

But American football coaches say rugby tackling clearly cuts down on the number of dangerous head-to-head collisions. While football players have traditionally been coached to tackle “head across the body, up-high wrap and squeeze,” Ash said, rugby tackling positions the head behind the ball carrier and the contact spot is lower. “So the biggest difference is there are fewer blows to the head,” he said.

According to someone there, at a practice sessions open to coaches during the Spring Clinic, UW was running a full-speed tackling drill for LBs without helmets to reinforce the rugby technique.

TierbsHsotBoobs

GrundleStiltzkin said:

The sooner HS coaches transition to the "rugby tackle" technique, the better.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-the-nfl-can-learn-from-rugby-1442335267

But American football coaches say rugby tackling clearly cuts down on the number of dangerous head-to-head collisions. While football players have traditionally been coached to tackle “head across the body, up-high wrap and squeeze,” Ash said, rugby tackling positions the head behind the ball carrier and the contact spot is lower. “So the biggest difference is there are fewer blows to the head,” he said.

According to someone there, at a practice sessions open to coaches during the Spring Clinic, UW was running a full-speed tackling drill for LBs without helmets to reinforce the rugby technique.

Peterman is teaching them the right way to tackle and they STILL can't get Jared Goff to the ground.

FUCK.

RaceBannon

Old enough to die in illegal wars old enough to die playing football

CuntWaffle

Kam Chancellor needs to come out with a Fred Mcgriff like video about how to tackle legally with violence.

doogsinparadise

RaceBannon said:

Old enough to die in illegal wars old enough to die playing football

Not old enough to drink or smoke weed though apparently.

Doogles

That's why you go for the knees. Blow out an ACL, save a life

dnc

Doogles said:

That's why you go for the knees. Blow out an ACL, save a life

Fuck, guess I owe @DuxFan an apology.

#Courageous

RoadDawg55

I/m not sure about Tequilla initial question, but you can't be a 5'9" 160 pound corner and not lower your head to make a tackle. If you try proper form tackling, you will get ran the fuck over by a big RB. AOG might have been right that a lot of you haven't played. A helmet into a ball carriers knee or shin is how a little guy gets a bigger guy down.

TierbsHsotBoobs

RoadDawg55 said:

I/m not sure about Tequilla initial question, but you can't be a 5'9" 160 pound corner and not lower your head to make a tackle. If you try proper form tackling, you will get ran the fuck over by a big RB. AOG might have been right that a lot of you haven't played. A helmet into a ball carriers knee or shin is how a little guy gets a bigger guy down.

You sound short.

RoadDawg55

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I/m not sure about Tequilla initial question, but you can't be a 5'9" 160 pound corner and not lower your head to make a tackle. If you try proper form tackling, you will get ran the fuck over by a big RB. AOG might have been right that a lot of you haven't played. A helmet into a ball carriers knee or shin is how a little guy gets a bigger guy down.

You sound short.

I'm actually tall.

TierbsHsotBoobs

RoadDawg55 said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I/m not sure about Tequilla initial question, but you can't be a 5'9" 160 pound corner and not lower your head to make a tackle. If you try proper form tackling, you will get ran the fuck over by a big RB. AOG might have been right that a lot of you haven't played. A helmet into a ball carriers knee or shin is how a little guy gets a bigger guy down.

You sound short.

I'm actually tall.

But now in my Internet head you are 5'7".

dnc

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

RoadDawg55 said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I/m not sure about Tequilla initial question, but you can't be a 5'9" 160 pound corner and not lower your head to make a tackle. If you try proper form tackling, you will get ran the fuck over by a big RB. AOG might have been right that a lot of you haven't played. A helmet into a ball carriers knee or shin is how a little guy gets a bigger guy down.

You sound short.

I'm actually tall.

But now in my Internet head you are 5'7".

The first 5'6" were consensual