Quick Fact on Recruiting

DonaldJones

Do you know that out of the 32 First round players that were drafted, only a few of them were 4 or 5 star players coming out of high school? Most of them were rated as 3 star or below. So don't get frustrated if we don't get the 5 star guys. Get the ones that can develop into ballers. Anyone can scout the 5 star guys but teams but can you spot out the guys that aren't rated as high?

RoadDawg55

This is why there is really no excuse for lacking talent. The players are out there.

Tequilla

Stars are great but can be a myth if you chase them ...

As always it comes back to not only finding guys that fit what you want to do, but also finding guys that you can develop into better players.

WilburHooksHands

So far, Petersen isn't doing anything to contradict his reputation at Boise. His guys come to play.

RaceBannon

I'm more concerned about college not the NFL

Was Ohio State filled with 3 stars and below?

ThomasFremont

Stan Emperterman was a .5 star diamond in the ruff.

Passion

DonaldJones said:

Do you know that out of the 32 First round players that were drafted, only a few of them were 4 or 5 star players coming out of high school? Most of them were rated as 3 star or below. So don't get frustrated if we don't get the 5 star guys. Get the ones that can develop into ballers. Anyone can scout the 5 star guys but teams but can you spot out the guys that aren't rated as high?

This.

Also, can you keep guys around for 4 years to build a more experienced team that has your system embedded in their brains?

Petros Papadakis annoys the hell out of me sometimes, but he hates sark so I tolerate him. He made a good point on the radio this week that 4 & 5-star guys often feel entitled to play, and they get pissy if they don't. Not the "OKG" "Built for Life" attitude that Pete is seeking.

2001400ex

Sark says stars matter. I think other teams like Bama troll him by offering players which gives the recruits an automatic star ranking bump.

Doogles

There are like 2 thousand more 3 stars than 4-5 stars combined. The percent of 5 stars that go to the nfl vs. the percent of the 3 stars that make it tells the story.

It's not the end all be all, but you want these guys in your program.

dnc

Doogles said:

There are like 2 thousand more 3 stars than 4-5 stars combined. The percent of 5 stars that go to the nfl vs. the percent of the 3 stars that make it tells the story.

hr, yk

Dennis_DeYoung

The problem is that there are a very different amount of 4 and 5 star players than there are 3 star players.

These days there aren't even real 1-stars.

If a service were to really rate people based on offers, it would be pretty accurate; but it's also stupid to think that coaching doesn't matter in who gets picked in the first round.

If a 5-star kid played under Gilby vs. under Urban Meyer, it will matter.

All in all, I find the "who gets drafted" bit pretty empty. I refuted it many times on dawgman as well. You are a hundred times more likely to get picked in the first round as a 5-star than a 2-star.

There is a bunch of additional variance in the error term that has to do with coaching, system for, etc (and of course there's just error as well).

Ultimately, it's a combination of factors, but there's no solace in getting low-rated players on average.

With Pete things are a little different because his development/scouting record is fantastic. But, with Sark there was almost a 1-to-1 between stars and development.