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  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,152 Founders Club

    We won 38-6. Gained almost 600 yards and gave up zero TDs.

    But the offensive and defensive lines are terrible and the coach is an idiot.

    If you saw Sark walking across Lake Washington some of you would say it just shows he can't swim.

    It's a good thing he's had time to get all his own Disciples in there
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    Passion said:

    Where have you been? It's pretty well known that other coaches negatively recruit against cozzetto, and kids don't want to play for him. Why? Because he is a mindless screamer, not a teacher.

    In contrast, Adrian Klemm IS a great recruiter of offensive linemen, no matter where they come from. Kids want to play for him because he bonds with them, and he uses it to his advantage in recruiting.

    well known? it is well known to the idiots on the other site. you are usually on point but here you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. you do not know shit about his recruiting or his coaching. he is an excellent teacher. how many film sessions or offensive line meetings have you sat in on? how many practices? do you talk to offensive lineman he has recruited or that play for him? ever hear him take a call from a recruit or have a conversation in front of you? do you know who he recruited here? did you hear stories from the pussies from his first time at uw? tell me something not repeated endlessly on the other site
  • 4321DAWGS said:

    Passion said:

    Where have you been? It's pretty well known that other coaches negatively recruit against cozzetto, and kids don't want to play for him. Why? Because he is a mindless screamer, not a teacher.

    In contrast, Adrian Klemm IS a great recruiter of offensive linemen, no matter where they come from. Kids want to play for him because he bonds with them, and he uses it to his advantage in recruiting.

    well known? it is well known to the idiots on the other site. you are usually on point but here you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. you do not know shit about his recruiting or his coaching. he is an excellent teacher. how many film sessions or offensive line meetings have you sat in on? how many practices? do you talk to offensive lineman he has recruited or that play for him? ever hear him take a call from a recruit or have a conversation in front of you? do you know who he recruited here? did you hear stories from the pussies from his first time at uw? tell me something not repeated endlessly on the other site
    Are you related to Cozzetto?
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    I think it's pretty safe to say our offensive line recruiting has really subpar. We cannot recruit tackles specifically and have not developed many good ones the past 4 years.

    I was surprised how well the line in spurts last year given all of the injuries like the Utah game. Equally disappointed in how bad they were against wazzu last year.

    Maybe he is a decent teacher but its obvious high profile offensive lineman are not coming here when playing time is for the taking. Especially the last few years. Kohler porter and hatchie were decent recruits but not a lot since that were heavily sought after.
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98

    4321DAWGS said:

    Passion said:

    Where have you been? It's pretty well known that other coaches negatively recruit against cozzetto, and kids don't want to play for him. Why? Because he is a mindless screamer, not a teacher.

    In contrast, Adrian Klemm IS a great recruiter of offensive linemen, no matter where they come from. Kids want to play for him because he bonds with them, and he uses it to his advantage in recruiting.

    well known? it is well known to the idiots on the other site. you are usually on point but here you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. you do not know shit about his recruiting or his coaching. he is an excellent teacher. how many film sessions or offensive line meetings have you sat in on? how many practices? do you talk to offensive lineman he has recruited or that play for him? ever hear him take a call from a recruit or have a conversation in front of you? do you know who he recruited here? did you hear stories from the pussies from his first time at uw? tell me something not repeated endlessly on the other site
    Are you related to Cozzetto?
    what os with you and stupid fuvking questions? i am a husky
  • 4321DAWGS said:

    4321DAWGS said:

    Passion said:

    Where have you been? It's pretty well known that other coaches negatively recruit against cozzetto, and kids don't want to play for him. Why? Because he is a mindless screamer, not a teacher.

    In contrast, Adrian Klemm IS a great recruiter of offensive linemen, no matter where they come from. Kids want to play for him because he bonds with them, and he uses it to his advantage in recruiting.

    well known? it is well known to the idiots on the other site. you are usually on point but here you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. you do not know shit about his recruiting or his coaching. he is an excellent teacher. how many film sessions or offensive line meetings have you sat in on? how many practices? do you talk to offensive lineman he has recruited or that play for him? ever hear him take a call from a recruit or have a conversation in front of you? do you know who he recruited here? did you hear stories from the pussies from his first time at uw? tell me something not repeated endlessly on the other site
    Are you related to Cozzetto?
    what os with you and stupid fuvking questions? i am a husky
    The audience would have also accepted "Your eyes are as good as mine".
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031

    I need to see a championship

    national... or will gameday work?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    4321 has convinced me that Cozzetto is a good OL coach. I always knew he was a decent X's and O's guy, but I was critical of his recruiting efforts, even though I know he only recruits Arizona. When I found out Sark does not talk to OL recruits until they get offered, that told me all I needed to know. Cozzetto has worked with average or worse talent every year. When your head coach doesn't put in the same effort towards the OL (Why?) what is he going to do?

    I would love a dynamite recruiter for the OL, but when the head coach does not talk to these guys until they get an offer and makes dumbass comments about de-emphasizing up front, what is the guy supposed to do? I have no clue why Sark wouldn't want great skill players AND great lineman. Are we the only ones who live lives of abundance?
  • santana
    santana Member Posts: 75
    After the Dawgs plunger rape the University of Phoenix to go 3-0 on the season... The Doogs will be out in full force. The excitement for the program will be at an all-time high. UW will be ranked fairly high, say 17th.

    They will enter a home game against Arizona that will tell us more than anything about Sark and the progress this team has made. It will be a must-win. As another plunger rape from Rich Rod (as always) would likely kick the team into a 3 game tail spin with Stanford and Oregon on deck. 3-3 is always special.

    The team did look good, but for all we know Boise State sucks this year. I will reserve judgement until they go 4-0. Anything else would be a major failure at this point.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited September 2013
    4321DAWGS said:

    Passion said:

    Where have you been? It's pretty well known that other coaches negatively recruit against cozzetto, and kids don't want to play for him. Why? Because he is a mindless screamer, not a teacher.

    In contrast, Adrian Klemm IS a great recruiter of offensive linemen, no matter where they come from. Kids want to play for him because he bonds with them, and he uses it to his advantage in recruiting.

    well known? it is well known to the idiots on the other site. you are usually on point but here you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. you do not know shit about his recruiting or his coaching. he is an excellent teacher. how many film sessions or offensive line meetings have you sat in on? how many practices? do you talk to offensive lineman he has recruited or that play for him? ever hear him take a call from a recruit or have a conversation in front of you? do you know who he recruited here? did you hear stories from the pussies from his first time at uw? tell me something not repeated endlessly on the other site
    Our offensive line recruiting has sucked shit for a long time, and he is a big reason why. Top quality high school OLs don't want to play for him. You want proof - Look at our OL recruiting classes since he has been here. They've been horrific. The guy simply can't recruit his own position!

    He is also a 1950s style coach trying to teach players in 2013. Screaming like your deranged grandfather isn't teaching. Justin Wilcox is a teacher. dan cozzetto is not.

    Yes, I speak to a lot of people around the conference, and trust me - other schools negatively recruit against cozzetto. He is a liability. Give me Adrian Klemm...or somebody like him.

    Your problem is that you simply don't want to look at facts. Our OL recruits have been ranked toward the bottom of the pac-12 since he got here, and we never get push on running plays. Rather, our QBs get pounded, and we've been lucky to have stellar RBs in Chris Polk and Bishop Sankey. In the 5 years that cozzetto has been here, which OL has gotten some All-Conference consideration? Meanwhile, we've had QBs, RBs, WRs, TEs, LBs, CBs and Ss that HAVE gotten All-Conference consideration.

    You have ZERO proof on your side, other than talk about "pussies" he used to coach. Real convincing.
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    here is another thing you do not understand. our head coach and offendive play caller thought spending his own time recruiting offensive lineman was a waste of his time. he would not text or call them. he barely spoke to them on visits. would you want to to go to a school where the top guy thought you were a waste of time or go to a school where the big boss took time to get to know you? you are right about our offensive line struggles and where we have been ranked. now you know why. of course we have not gotten much push since he has been here. he inherited worthless players that did not lift and he has been recruiting from the bottom of the barrel. fun fact position coaches do not only recruit their position. coaches are assigned a region by the recruiting coordinator and recruit that region. of course other schools negativeky recruit against him. that is there job. guess what? we negatively recruit against other schools. gasp. he is not a 1950s style coach. maybe someone somewhere told you that. he is an old school coach effectively coaching the modern game. you say I have zero proof yet you only answered two of my questions. you do not know shit
  • vadawg
    vadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
    My question is:

    Has Sark changed his attitude toward the recruitment of OL? If so, how? What's the theory behind WHY he wouldn't put effort into recruiting OL?

    FUCK, he was a fucking QB! YTFuck would a former QB think that the OL wasn't an important component to your fucking team?!?!? This in itself says he's a fucking idiot, and not HC material!
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Position coaches don't recruit their position? Really, I'll pass that on to Tosh Lupoi. He'll find it interesting.

    You know the best way to counter negative recruiting? Be a guy that players want to play for. He is not, hence our crappy OL recruiting classes. Adrian Klemm is a prime example of a guy that players want to play for.

    I agree with you that Sark is equally (if not more) to blame. No arguments there. But why is cozzetto "recruiting from the bottom of the barrel?" Perhaps it's because that's the only place he can recruit from. And he has been here 5 years, and you're still talking about the "players he inherited." Love the excuses.

    But the bottom line is that NONE of cozzetto's players are recognized at the conference level, and I don't see it happening any time soon.

    Yah, I don't know shit. Just the facts, mrs. cozzetto.
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    historically position coaches don't strictly recruit their position. they are assigned a region. tosh being a top give national recruiter is a totally different animal. nobody on this staff can recruit like him. on one hand you are admitting that sark does nothing for offensive line recruiting and on the other you are blaming cozzetto. he gets no help. for the first there years he played the other guys and had to throw his young guys out to the wolves because the cupboards were bare. i do not know about you but i would love to have porter right now playing. do you know who he has recruited here or at other schools?
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    vadawg said:

    My question is:

    Has Sark changed his attitude toward the recruitment of OL? If so, how? What's the theory behind WHY he wouldn't put effort into recruiting OL?

    FUCK, he was a fucking QB! YTFuck would a former QB think that the OL wasn't an important component to your fucking team?!?!? This in itself says he's a fucking idiot, and not HC material!

    my hope with the new staff is that they would change his attitude towards recruiting offensive lineman. i have heard this has happened but i do not know for sure. if i new why he was not involved i would tell you. he thought it was a waste of his time. i completely agree with the last part
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Passion said:

    Position coaches don't recruit their position? Really, I'll pass that on to Tosh Lupoi. He'll find it interesting.

    .............................


    That's not exactly what he said. What he said was that coaches are assigned recruiting by regions, and I'll add that it's been that way for a very long time. A friend of mine was recruited as an offensive lineman by Jim Lambright early in Lambright's career as the DC. Lambright's involvement was based solely on his assigned recruiting region.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Solid poasts numbersDawgs
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    2234Dawg actually does make sense
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited September 2013
    4321DAWGS said:

    on one hand you are admitting that sark does nothing for offensive line recruiting and on the other you are blaming cozzetto.

    Wrong. I blame both.

    And regarding your next post (changed attitudes towards OL recruiting), it's sad that attitudes had to change. Shouldn't a head coach prioritize OL recruiting from day 1? Sark has a poor record on the OL and interior DL.
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    think it through passion. put it in another context. if you are a linebacker and the linebacker coach was recruiting but the defensive coordinator would not spend any time talking to you but all the other schools defensive coordinators had a relationship with you and they all explained to you how they would use you in their scheme what would you do?
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    4321DAWGS said:

    think it through passion. put it in another context. if you are a linebacker and the linebacker coach was recruiting but the defensive coordinator would not spend any time talking to you but all the other schools defensive coordinators had a relationship with you and they all explained to you how they would use you in their scheme what would you do?

    Sorry, it's cozzetto too. I've heard too much. The guy is not a good recruiter.
  • TitusPullo
    TitusPullo Member Posts: 146
    I wish Sark had kept Michalzik or whatever from Cal that he lost to the Rayduhs. Getting rid of Cozzetto is my biggest wish regarding the assistants. Speeding up the growth rate of a DJ clone baby is one of the others.
  • 4321DAWGS
    4321DAWGS Member Posts: 98
    Passion said:

    4321DAWGS said:

    think it through passion. put it in another context. if you are a linebacker and the linebacker coach was recruiting but the defensive coordinator would not spend any time talking to you but all the other schools defensive coordinators had a relationship with you and they all explained to you how they would use you in their scheme what would you do?

    Sorry, it's cozzetto too. I've heard too much. The guy is not a good recruiter.
    what have you heard?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    We won 38-6. Gained almost 600 yards and gave up zero TDs.

    But the offensive and defensive lines are terrible and the coach is an idiot.

    If you saw Sark walking across Lake Washington some of you would say it just shows he can't swim.

    Bump.
    Best. Bump. Ever.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    Aubby we all know you're listening...

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