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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    edited September 2015
    I saw that plane take off from SeaTac this morning.

    (not the Taiwanese plane that crashed, the Oregon/Horizon Air plane)
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    RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,160
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    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    They did pretty good at Pearl Harbor...
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    whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,356
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    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,637
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    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    They did pretty good at Pearl Harbor...
    #NeverForget
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


    I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

    A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

    Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

    In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


    I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

    A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

    Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

    In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
    Sounds like you kind of care, but not really
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    AZDuck said:

    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


    I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

    A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

    Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

    In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
    Sounds like you kind of care, but not really
    I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.

    Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,764
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

    Glad our field is named after a company that completely fucked up routine ground maintenance and killed almost 100 people
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    AZDuck said:

    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


    I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

    A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

    Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

    In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
    Sounds like you kind of care, but not really
    I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.

    Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_173

    That's interesting.
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    AZDuck said:
    Yup!

    Thanks for Googling that for me. I'm just fucking lazy to actually include links, etc.

    ;) <----------
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,496
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    AZDuck said:

    whlinder said:

    whlinder said:

    And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:
    image

    Gurgle

    But how are Asians shitty pilots?

    These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
    It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster


    I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

    A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

    Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

    In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
    Sounds like you kind of care, but not really
    I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.

    Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole.
    Did you study that case in a class at UW, too?
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    Did you study that case in a class at UW, too?

    I know you're being sarcastic, but the answer is no.
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    I love flight stuff. Salon used to have a column called "Ask the Pilot" which I used to read. Find it all very fascinating, but I've never flown anything myself. Although I am lucky to have a few friends with pilot licenses, so I've been able to experience a little bit of that.

    Googling, just noticed that he now has a blog. (Probably not citrus)

    I'll be out for a while...
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    AZDuck said:

    I love flight stuff. Salon used to have a column called "Ask the Pilot" which I used to read. Find it all very fascinating, but I've never flown anything myself. Although I am lucky to have a few friends with pilot licenses, so I've been able to experience a little bit of that.

    Googling, just noticed that he now has a blog. (Probably not citrus)

    I'll be out for a while...

    Shoot @OZONE a PM. Maybe he'll take you flying in his Mallard. That is, if he can take time off from shuttling Helfrich back and forth between Eugene and Coos Bay.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,086
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    AZDuck said:

    I love flight stuff. Salon used to have a column called "Ask the Pilot" which I used to read. Find it all very fascinating, but I've never flown anything myself. Although I am lucky to have a few friends with pilot licenses, so I've been able to experience a little bit of that.

    Googling, just noticed that he now has a blog. (Probably not citrus)

    I'll be out for a while...

    Shoot @OZONE a PM. Maybe he'll take you flying in his Mallard. That is, if he can take time off from shuttling Helfrich back and forth between Eugene and Coos Bay.
    I laffed. HH must attract pilots or some shit.
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    PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 29,495
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    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I love flight stuff. Salon used to have a column called "Ask the Pilot" which I used to read. Find it all very fascinating, but I've never flown anything myself. Although I am lucky to have a few friends with pilot licenses, so I've been able to experience a little bit of that.

    Googling, just noticed that he now has a blog. (Probably not citrus)

    I'll be out for a while...

    Shoot @OZONE a PM. Maybe he'll take you flying in his Mallard. That is, if he can take time off from shuttling Helfrich back and forth between Eugene and Coos Bay.
    I laffed. HH must attract pilots or some shit.
    You won't find a bigger group of degenerates than pilots.
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    BayDawg said:

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    ^^^ Trolled by an airplane. ^^^




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