Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
You have to look at more than just stats with Browning. The kid is a winner. He was pissed when he came off the field for magna carta, where last year Miley Cyrus was thanking Peterman. Browning even chawed in Peterman's ear a couple times answering what he did, rather than coming off the field with his head down. Also, look at the next play after he made a bad throw. There's a couple times coming down the stretch he way overthrew his receiver because of adrenaline, but he came back the next play. Even after that second sack where I about broke my TV, he came back and got us back within FG range.
Look at Russell Wilson, he can shit the bed all game and still throw the game winning TD to Kearse. I've read about Browning for a while now, but I was surprised both ways. How Smith fucked up the game plan and how poised Browning looked.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
If you can't see the damage Shaw has done to Hogan over the past four years, I can't help you.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
And Stanford also rushed for 85 yds as opposed to the 19 yds of UW
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
If you can't see the damage Shaw has done to Hogan over the past four years, I can't help you.
If you can't see how bad our playcalling has been over the past year or so, I can't help you.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
Hogan has also won the conference twice, a rose bowl, and beat Oregon twice, nothing else matters. That was probably the worst game of his career yesterday. Pretty safe bet he gets better. I'd still go with Hogan this year.
Smiff was a whoosh on your part, but not a big one. Stanford's biggest problem is Shaws play calling.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Fuck this. That was the same line we used last year to explain away the fear Petersen is making a mistake with Smith.
At some point, you need to go out and fucking score! I'm tired of this Bullshit play the field position conservative game. It's the fucking P12, nobody plays defense...the entire nation is ahead of the D on O and we're still stuck in the dark ages. It's a complete joke. Like our uniforms, we borrow from what is "hip" but we don't have a clue.
Smith saw Malzahn throw a bubble screen once but he doesn't know why.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Fuck this. That was the same line we used last year to explain away the fear Petersen is making a mistake with Smith.
At some point, you need to go out and fucking score! I'm tired of this Bullshit play the field position conservative game. It's the fucking P12, nobody plays defense...the entire nation is ahead of the D on O and we're still stuck in the dark ages. It's a complete joke. Like our uniforms, we borrow from what is "hip" but we don't have a clue.
Smith saw Malzahn throw a bubble screen once but he doesn't know why.
This. No more excuses. I've posted many times that these struggles go back to 2012. The KineBronco guy on here posted the same thing. Prince was the OC of those Boise teams. Smith is ours. Both were often ripped. Petersen is the constant. I guess Smith is as well, but he was only the QB coach of the Boise teams.
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Fuck this. That was the same line we used last year to explain away the fear Petersen is making a mistake with Smith.
At some point, you need to go out and fucking score! I'm tired of this Bullshit play the field position conservative game. It's the fucking P12, nobody plays defense...the entire nation is ahead of the D on O and we're still stuck in the dark ages. It's a complete joke. Like our uniforms, we borrow from what is "hip" but we don't have a clue.
Smith saw Malzahn throw a bubble screen once but he doesn't know why.
This. No more excuses. I've posted many times that these struggles go back to 2012. The KineBronco guy on here posted the same thing. Prince was the OC of those Boise teams. Smith is ours. Both were often ripped. Petersen is the constant. I guess Smith is as well, but he was only the QB coach of the Boise teams.
Larry Cullpepper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smiff
This year is fucked. The whole team looked out manned at pretty much every position. I'd say they will be better in the future but I think I've said that every year since 1990. So there's that.
Sorry I can't get geeked up about Browning and his 20-34. It sure seemed like 10-34. The current offense is terrible and if they don't get their shit together are going to get buried by Pac-12 defenses. I could care less how close the game was. We fucking lost. Victor looked great. Qualls looks like he can plug the middle. Mathis might be a warrior but until this team wins who gives a fuck? "We are close" "should a could a would a" it's the same as getting a second or third place medal in kids sporting events. Fuck participation. Win or fucking go home!
Browning looked pretty good. He threw some nice balls, moved around in the pocket, barked orders, wasn't nervous, etc. He looked like he belonged, but objectively speaking, he played like shit. 20-34 for 150 and a pick is a terrible game.
We've harped on the offensive coaching enough, but our talent isn't that bad. It's really not. And even if it is bad, I still expect to have a good enough coach to coax something out of them. It's fucking pathetic. The defense and special teams set them up multiple times with outstanding field position and they twiddled their dicks and kicked FG's. I think they got one first down on either of those drives.
It's really depressing that Petersen and his staff had a long time to reflect on last year's dreckfest of an offense and improve it. All off season to make necessary tweaks and changes. And we come out and play arguably the worst offensive game of the Petersen era. We all know how bad some of those games were last year too. This was as bad or worse than ASU and Stanford last year. There were some good things going on, but it's hard to feel good about anything with this embarrassing of a showing.
I would say UWs offensive talent surpasses Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu. Maybe Utah, but they have Booker. So it's below average, but not befitting of the worst offense in the league.
I thought it was odd they never opened up vertically to make BSU pay for stacking the box. Boise actually didn't pressure a ton, they just took away the run completely. My guess is Peterson thought his defense could win him a FG and field position battle...and he was almost correct. He just ran out of time.
Stanford says hello.
I'd still take Stanford's talent. McCaffrey is better than any RB on UW. I'd take their OL. I'd take Hogan right now over Browning. TE/WRs are probably pretty close. But I'd keep Smiff over Shaw.
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
Hogan has also won the conference twice, a rose bowl, and beat Oregon twice, nothing else matters. That was probably the worst game of his career yesterday. Pretty safe bet he gets better. I'd still go with Hogan this year.
Smiff was a whoosh on your part, but not a big one. Stanford's biggest problem is Shaws play calling.
Sorry I can't get geeked up about Browning and his 20-34. It sure seemed like 10-34. The current offense is terrible and if they don't get their shit together are going to get buried by Pac-12 defenses. I could care less how close the game was. We fucking lost. Victor looked great. Qualls looks like he can plug the middle. Mathis might be a warrior but until this team wins who gives a fuck? "We are close" "should a could a would a" it's the same as getting a second or third place medal in kids sporting events. Fuck participation. Win or fucking go home!
Since when does anyone beside Stanford play defense in the Pac-12?
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Look at Russell Wilson, he can shit the bed all game and still throw the game winning TD to Kearse. I've read about Browning for a while now, but I was surprised both ways. How Smith fucked up the game plan and how poised Browning looked.
Buttah baker makes that INT 8 out of 10 times.
King looks to have found a home.
I like the look of Gaines
True Fr. Browning - 20/34, 150 yards, 0 TDs, 1 Int, 4 rushes, 3 yards......@ BSU
A true freshman playing his first game @ BSU plays equally shitty in his first game vs. a senior making his 40th or so start @ Northwestern.....and you'd go with Hogan?
And saying you'd keep Smiff over anyone further shows how FS your post is.
Smiff was a whoosh on your part, but not a big one. Stanford's biggest problem is Shaws play calling.
At some point, you need to go out and fucking score! I'm tired of this Bullshit play the field position conservative game. It's the fucking P12, nobody plays defense...the entire nation is ahead of the D on O and we're still stuck in the dark ages. It's a complete joke. Like our uniforms, we borrow from what is "hip" but we don't have a clue.
Smith saw Malzahn throw a bubble screen once but he doesn't know why.
Negative: D. Washington (piling on). I'm going to start a consecutive game-watch to see how long it takes before he actually makes somebody miss.