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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Bama has more than one Joey

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    42 -35. Bamers rbs, combined, barely broke a Hundy. There are arguments out there to get you where you want to go. I don't think this is one of them.

    Besides, Blake is good for at least three picks and five more super stupid plays, even against Oregon, and that alone likely gets the ducks two scores. And he doesn't have cooper to bail him out anymore.

    Give me a break.

    If osu plays bamers 10 times they likely start beating them progressively worse each time. Bama was a flawed team last season. At least make them them prove it out over three or so games before assuming they're indestructible. Osu just scored another TD against wisky to make it an even 100, so color me "wait and see" based on yesterday.

    Sims isn't the quarterback anymore
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Bama has more than one Joey

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    42 -35. Bamers rbs, combined, barely broke a Hundy. There are arguments out there to get you where you want to go. I don't think this is one of them.

    Besides, Blake is good for at least three picks and five more super stupid plays, even against Oregon, and that alone likely gets the ducks two scores. And he doesn't have cooper to bail him out anymore.

    Give me a break.

    If osu plays bamers 10 times they likely start beating them progressively worse each time. Bama was a flawed team last season. At least make them them prove it out over three or so games before assuming they're indestructible. Osu just scored another TD against wisky to make it an even 100, so color me "wait and see" based on yesterday.

    Bama's flaws are a lot more manageable than Oregon's flaws. HTH
    Fuck off and follow the thread. 20 pts is nothing for Oregon. The flaws you speak of are on the other side of the ball.

    Hope that helps.
    This thread is too shitty to follow now.
    That's fair.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited September 2015
    dhdawg said:

    Bama has more than one Joey

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    42 -35. Bamers rbs, combined, barely broke a Hundy. There are arguments out there to get you where you want to go. I don't think this is one of them.

    Besides, Blake is good for at least three picks and five more super stupid plays, even against Oregon, and that alone likely gets the ducks two scores. And he doesn't have cooper to bail him out anymore.

    Give me a break.

    If osu plays bamers 10 times they likely start beating them progressively worse each time. Bama was a flawed team last season. At least make them them prove it out over three or so games before assuming they're indestructible. Osu just scored another TD against wisky to make it an even 100, so color me "wait and see" based on yesterday.

    Sims isn't the quarterback anymore
    take back the two scores then. that kid was mistake prone even with Amari Cooper. w/o Sims it has to be addition by subtraction alone.

    still say Oregon can over 20+ pts. on anyone.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Yeah 19 in 2011. You don't know shit about this Bama defense yet and that Oregon offense had fewer weapons than the current iterations. Jeff Maehl was the main threat outside and I'll take Freeman et al over LaMike. Over time, like it or not, Oregon is becoming less and less about scheme and more and more about recruiting talent. It's obvious.

    Pretty safe to say the ducks would put up more than 20 on anyone. Winning is another matter.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Yeah 19 in 2011. You don't know shit about this Bama defense yet and that Oregon offense had fewer weapons than the current iterations. Jeff Maehl was the main threat outside and I'll take Freeman et al over LaMike. Over time, like it or not, Oregon is becoming less and less about scheme and more and more about recruiting talent. It's obvious.

    Pretty safe to say the ducks would put up more than 20 on anyone. Winning is another matter.
    Change your opinion to 19 or more and you got a deal.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited September 2015
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Yeah 19 in 2011. You don't know shit about this Bama defense yet and that Oregon offense had fewer weapons than the current iterations. Jeff Maehl was the main threat outside and I'll take Freeman et al over LaMike. Over time, like it or not, Oregon is becoming less and less about scheme and more and more about recruiting talent. It's obvious.

    Pretty safe to say the ducks would put up more than 20 on anyone. Winning is another matter.
    Change your opinion to 19 or more and you got a deal.
    Nope. OSU's D held Bamers very much in check, keeping their passing to like 230 yds. (and that was with the very best WR in the country) and their running game to just over a hundy. Oregon, who played like shit and made all manner of unforced error, passed for 330+ and did slightly better than Bamers in the run game w/o a big running night from Mariota. Freeman never showed up but Tyner averaged over 6 yds. per carry. If Stanford doesn't drop a pass that Mariota had the gall to throw right to him, it's easily 27. Odds are they can do that against Bama.

    Oregon's biggest problem in that game was the OSU running game, which kept their offense off the field for most of the 3rd quarter. OSU almost doubled Oregon's TOP for the game.

    Bottom line - when the other guy's RB clips you for 2fity, your offense is going to be limited. And even then, Oregon moved the ball.

    Until they replace Pellum, Oregon will not threaten a title run again and will have to settle for P12 championships. Nice guy I'm sure, apparently a good recruiter, but he's not a coordinator. That seal block kept happening all night long, and he was bewildered as to what to do about it. A good D coordinator at least makes them do something else, and he didn't.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Yeah 19 in 2011. You don't know shit about this Bama defense yet and that Oregon offense had fewer weapons than the current iterations. Jeff Maehl was the main threat outside and I'll take Freeman et al over LaMike. Over time, like it or not, Oregon is becoming less and less about scheme and more and more about recruiting talent. It's obvious.

    Pretty safe to say the ducks would put up more than 20 on anyone. Winning is another matter.
    Change your opinion to 19 or more and you got a deal.
    Nope. OSU's D held Bamers very much in check, keeping their passing to like 230 yds. (and that was with the very best WR in the country) and their running game to just over a hundy. Oregon, who played like shit and made all manner of unforced error, passed for 330+ and did slightly better than Bamers in the run game w/o a big running night from Mariota. Freeman never showed up but Tyner averaged over 6 yds. per carry. If Stanford doesn't drop a pass that Mariota had the gall to throw right to him, it's easily 27. Odds are they can do that against Bama.

    Oregon's biggest problem in that game was the OSU running game, which kept their offense off the field for most of the 3rd quarter. OSU almost doubled Oregon's TOP for the game.

    Bottom line - when the other guy's RB clips you for 2fity, your offense is going to be limited. And even then, Oregon moved the ball.

    Until they replace Pellum, Oregon will not threaten a title run again and will have to settle for P12 championships. Nice guy I'm sure, apparently a good recruiter, but he's not a coordinator. That seal block kept happening all night long, and he was bewildered as to what to do about it. A good D coordinator at least makes them do something else, and he didn't.
    5. Time of Possession
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Yeah 19 in 2011. You don't know shit about this Bama defense yet and that Oregon offense had fewer weapons than the current iterations. Jeff Maehl was the main threat outside and I'll take Freeman et al over LaMike. Over time, like it or not, Oregon is becoming less and less about scheme and more and more about recruiting talent. It's obvious.

    Pretty safe to say the ducks would put up more than 20 on anyone. Winning is another matter.
    Change your opinion to 19 or more and you got a deal.
    Nope. OSU's D held Bamers very much in check, keeping their passing to like 230 yds. (and that was with the very best WR in the country) and their running game to just over a hundy. Oregon, who played like shit and made all manner of unforced error, passed for 330+ and did slightly better than Bamers in the run game w/o a big running night from Mariota. Freeman never showed up but Tyner averaged over 6 yds. per carry. If Stanford doesn't drop a pass that Mariota had the gall to throw right to him, it's easily 27. Odds are they can do that against Bama.

    Oregon's biggest problem in that game was the OSU running game, which kept their offense off the field for most of the 3rd quarter. OSU almost doubled Oregon's TOP for the game.

    Bottom line - when the other guy's RB clips you for 2fity, your offense is going to be limited. And even then, Oregon moved the ball.

    Until they replace Pellum, Oregon will not threaten a title run again and will have to settle for P12 championships. Nice guy I'm sure, apparently a good recruiter, but he's not a coordinator. That seal block kept happening all night long, and he was bewildered as to what to do about it. A good D coordinator at least makes them do something else, and he didn't.
    5. Time of Possession
    Of course, it's all possible. But the odds, in my view, are low that Bama recreates that exact same game.

    With Addison back, and the addition of what appears to be some great RB talent to go w/ Freeman, they can cover 20 against Bamers. Lesser offenses, including that abortion aka Florida, managed to do so in 2014.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Auburn's defense was near the bottom in the SEC that year, everyone including Thomas was able to throw the ball on them. Alabama's defense is vastly superior, they would swallow Oregon whole.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    PurpleJ said:

    I call bullshit creep coog.

    How many points did they put up on Auburn? 19? I think this Bama defense might be even better than that, and this is not the same Oregon offense as those teams that Chip had.

    Auburn's defense was near the bottom in the SEC that year, everyone including Thomas was able to throw the ball on them. Alabama's defense is vastly superior, they would swallow Oregon whole.
    You know this much about bamers D after one game? Ohio state shut out wisky. Why couldn't bamers do it?

    I'll wait and see. Oregon's offense has more weapons now than in 2011 even with Tyner out.

    Swallowing whole means pitching a shutout or thereabouts. It doesnt mean 20 and Oregon could easily score 3 TDs on any SEC team, even with limited TOP.

    Look at Alabama's results last year. 5 FIVE fucking teams put 20+ on them not including OSU. Florida was an abortion of an offense and managed to do it on the road and a 7-6 Tennessee team put 20 on them. Ole miss and West Virginia hit 23 and auburn hung 44 pts.
    Oregon would do so (hit at least 21) rather easily. Best evidence of that is what Florida and Auburn did to them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I still don't trust the Bama defense.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    I still don't trust the Bama defense.

    It's not loaded top to bottom. That's for sure.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    I still don't trust the Bama defense.

    It's not loaded top to bottom. That's for sure.
    It's a great defense for 5 or 10 years ago. It is loaded top to bottom for the NFL.

    But the spread is the

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    I still don't trust the Bama defense.

    It's not loaded top to bottom. That's for sure.
    It's a great defense for 5 or 10 years ago. It is loaded top to bottom for the NFL.

    But the spread is the

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    One word: Will Muschamp.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    I still don't trust the Bama defense.

    I trust Saban, though.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    PurpleJ said:

    I still don't trust the Bama defense.

    I'd blow Saban, though.