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  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    edited August 2013
    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    Exactly. Bartenders get tips for pouring a beer or a glass of wine. Barista's get tips for making coffee drinks. Taking orders and making burgers in a timely fashion is just as hard of job. It wouldn't be the end of the world if these fast food workers could get tips.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,971 Founders Club
    The socialist takeover starts when fast food workers make $9 an hour instead of $7.50 but it's okay for CEOs to essentially give themselves $5,000,000 raises, defraud stockholders, break laws, and ruin companies only to receive eight digit golden parachutes. Interesting.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    The socialist takeover starts when fast food workers make $9 an hour instead of $7.50 but it's okay for Job Creators to essentially give themselves $5,000,000 raises, defraud stockholders, break laws, and ruin companies only to receive eight digit golden parachutes. Interesting.

    Fixed.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,638 Founders Club

    I was trying to get a reaction with my earlier post, but why does it matter to you guys if McDonald's workers want to get paid more?

    Why does it matter to you if we want to comment on it?
    It doesn't at all. I'm just curious why it bothers some of you so much.

    If you root for a football team and you hear that the scout team is thinking of going on strike because they don't get playing time like the two deeps, you would you want them to grow up and start working on improving themselves and/or transfer to another school. I think we'd agree that's the way it should be.

    Now imagine if scout teams were suddenly and actually going on strike in college football. And Emmert was quoted as saying that some sort of accommodation needs to be made because these scout teamers have feelings too. It would be an insult to the idea of meritocracy and of earning and deserving what you get instead of having it handed to you by an appeasing authority body.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,108 Founders Club
    Tips could improve service. I like incentives
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2013
    I don't tip at Starbucks or anywhere where I walk up to ca inter, order, get my own stuff, and bus my own table. Ever. McDonald's workers should t get tips and neither should Starbucks. The tip jars are the equivalent to "rounding up" at Safeway. The guilt weak minded people into doing something the really don't want to do by making it a public act.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,638 Founders Club

    The socialist takeover starts when fast food workers make $9 an hour instead of $7.50 but it's okay for CEOs to essentially give themselves $5,000,000 raises, defraud stockholders, break laws, and ruin companies only to receive eight digit golden parachutes. Interesting.

    Who said it was ok for a CEO to do those thing? It's not.
    winner winner chicken dinner.
  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    DeepSeaZ said:

    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.

  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    I don't tip the bartender I tip the boobs. As for waitresses, I tip based on service. It shouldn't be a given that you do the minimum and I give you more. You give great service with a smile then you get a tip. If the food sucks, and your service is none existent then no tip.



    DeepSeaZ said:

    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2013



    DeepSeaZ said:

    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.

    So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck up

    And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited August 2013



    DeepSeaZ said:

    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.

    So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck up

    And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers.
    I have done that twice. The first time the guy took my $2, and the second time a girl said she couldn't accept tips and didn't want to get fired. I don't really go to McDonald's all that often, so I don't get too many opportunities to tip them. They work just as hard as a lot of workers who get tips. That's the point I was making. I was a pizza delivery boy in high school and I got tons of tips. I bet these workers at McDonald's work a lot harder than I did. All I had to do was take a pizza and drive it from point A to point B.

    All this shit about the McDonald's workers should go to school or start their own business is pretty dumb. While I am sure that is true for some of the workers, I'm sure it's not possible for all of them. Some of these people aren't very intelligent, some have disabilities, some were probably crack babies, etc. You don't know all of their life stories. They don't deserve the $15 an hour they are asking for in California, but I don't have a problem with exploring ways to help these people earn more money.

  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,315 Founders Club
    If you don't like the amount of money you are making, look for a new job that pays more. Or get a second job. Or go to school to learn a necessary skill for a better job. Or do all three of those things. Or just shut the fuck up and continue working at a fast food place for the rest of your life.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,108 Founders Club
    The world needs ditch diggers too
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781



    DeepSeaZ said:

    I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.

    DeepSeaZ said:

    Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.

    I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.

    No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.
    I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.

    So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck up

    And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers.
    I have done that twice. The first time the guy took my $2, and the second time a girl said she couldn't accept tips and didn't want to get fired. I don't really go to McDonald's all that often, so I don't get too many opportunities to tip them. They work just as hard as a lot of workers who get tips. That's the point I was making. I was a pizza delivery boy in high school and I got tons of tips. I bet these workers at McDonald's work a lot harder than I did. All I had to do was take a pizza and drive it from point A to point B.

    All this shit about the McDonald's workers should go to school or start their own business is pretty dumb. While I am sure that is true for some of the workers, I'm sure it's not possible for all of them. Some of these people aren't very intelligent, some have disabilities, some were probably crack babies, etc. You don't know all of their life stories. They don't deserve the $15 an hour they are asking for in California, but I don't have a problem with exploring ways to help these people earn more money.

    Explore away...but forcing businesses to pay more than people are worth because you feel sorry for them should be off the table. There are a lot of ways to help the disabled rather than forcing a private business to do it. Maybe start a crowd fund thing and people that think those people should make more could contribute, them every month the money could be divides mount those poor folks. But that would never work. Why? Because the people who are pushing to raise the wage wouldn't contribute. It's all great as long as its someone else who is paying.

    By the way, if they don't "deserve" $15, just what arbitrary figure do they " deserve".
  • longduckdonglongduckdong Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,031 Swaye's Wigwam

    march where?

    if i owned a McDonalds, i'd go hire some more $7/hr fucktards and backfill these idiots who are walking out. wernt happy about $7/hr, well how about $0/hr?

    why do fast food workers feel they should make more money? because they entitled? entitled to what? fucking go to school and better yourself or better yet, start a bidness yourself and make some god damned money you can be proud of. fucking fuck fuck fuck.

    even when i was growing up, fast food was looked at as a high school job or what lifelong underachievers do.....when did that change?

    flip burgers, make a $100K....only in Obama's America is this even a fucking topic of discussion.

    Lol, aged like milk this one did
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter

    and a sympathetic media rolls out somebody with three kids and presents them as "how is this person supposed to raise 3 kids on $7.50 an hour?" Instead of asking the real questions that need to be asked.

    It's rough when your crack or meth or heroin habit costs $100 per day.

    "Harm Reduction," Idiots call it. Yet it's the #1 cause of homelessness on the West Coast.
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