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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited August 2015
    The state-issued ID WRT to voting rights is interesting.

    Personally, I don't think it is all that burdensome to have a state-issued ID.

    But it tends to be the anti-water-fluoridation/black helicopter types that insist that the Gummit is going to tattoo the Number of the Beast on our collective foreheads using state-issued ID.

    According to advocacy groups for minorities and the elderly, these populations are significantly more likely to NOT have a state-issued ID card. 11% of citizens do not possess a state issued ID card.

    http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws

    Voter ID seems to be a solution looking for a problem - only 10 cases of voter impersonation have been documented among 2,068 voter fraud cases over the last 15 years, or one in 15 million voters.

    I call straw man.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    AZDuck said:

    The state-issued ID WRT to voting rights is interesting.

    Personally, I don't think it is all that burdensome to have a state-issued ID.

    But it tends to be the anti-water-fluoridation/black helicopter types that insist that the Gummit is going to tattoo the Number of the Beast on our collective foreheads using state-issued ID.

    According to advocacy groups for minorities and the elderly, these populations are significantly more likely to NOT have a state-issued ID card. 11% of citizens do not possess a state issued ID card.

    http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws

    Voter ID seems to be a solution looking for a problem - only 10 cases of voter impersonation have been documented among 2,068 voter fraud cases over the last 15 years, or one in 15 million voters.

    I call straw man.

    Since we don't really require citizens or illegals to provide a real ID for free services, maybe it's not too much to ask for them to provide an ID to participate in our democracy?

    I mean the hassle of having to wait in line at the DMV is simply cruel and unusual punishment.

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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    I don't think you should be required to have an ID to vote.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    CuntWaffle said:

    I don't think you should be required to have an ID to vote.

    Sounds like something an illegal would say.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    I don't think you should be required to have an ID to vote.

    Sounds like something an illegal would say.
    Or someone who just plain hates America.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    The state-issued ID WRT to voting rights is interesting.

    Personally, I don't think it is all that burdensome to have a state-issued ID.

    But it tends to be the anti-water-fluoridation/black helicopter types that insist that the Gummit is going to tattoo the Number of the Beast on our collective foreheads using state-issued ID.

    According to advocacy groups for minorities and the elderly, these populations are significantly more likely to NOT have a state-issued ID card. 11% of citizens do not possess a state issued ID card.

    http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws

    Voter ID seems to be a solution looking for a problem - only 10 cases of voter impersonation have been documented among 2,068 voter fraud cases over the last 15 years, or one in 15 million voters.

    I call straw man.

    Since we don't really require citizens or illegals to provide a real ID for free services, maybe it's not too much to ask for them to provide an ID to participate in our democracy?

    I mean the hassle of having to wait in line at the DMV is simply cruel and unusual punishment.

    What purpose does it serve? Looking at the data, illegals aren't trying to vote without the requirement that voters present state-issued photo ID. We're just making life harder for minorities, cripples and the olds.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Does anyone actually realize you have to document US citizenship during the voter registration process?

    You know you are a Republican when you think you have to show more evidence for who you are to vote than buy a gun.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    AZDuck said:

    salemcoog said:

    AZDuck said:

    The state-issued ID WRT to voting rights is interesting.

    Personally, I don't think it is all that burdensome to have a state-issued ID.

    But it tends to be the anti-water-fluoridation/black helicopter types that insist that the Gummit is going to tattoo the Number of the Beast on our collective foreheads using state-issued ID.

    According to advocacy groups for minorities and the elderly, these populations are significantly more likely to NOT have a state-issued ID card. 11% of citizens do not possess a state issued ID card.

    http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws

    Voter ID seems to be a solution looking for a problem - only 10 cases of voter impersonation have been documented among 2,068 voter fraud cases over the last 15 years, or one in 15 million voters.

    I call straw man.

    Since we don't really require citizens or illegals to provide a real ID for free services, maybe it's not too much to ask for them to provide an ID to participate in our democracy?

    I mean the hassle of having to wait in line at the DMV is simply cruel and unusual punishment.

    We're just making life harder for minorities,.
    Please Explain
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Does anyone actually realize you have to document US citizenship during the voter registration process?

    You know you are a Republican when you think you have to show more evidence for who you are to vote than buy a gun.

    You know you're a Republican when you have enough edumacation to know the Democrats are the party of "vote early and vote often".

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.











    And, fuck off.
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    2001400ex said:

    Does anyone actually realize you have to document US citizenship during the voter registration process?

    You know you are a Republican when you think you have to show more evidence for who you are to vote than buy a gun.

    Not true but thanks for providing nothing to the discussion. You know 8 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were registered to vote? Didn't think so.

    The problem is not only unqualified people voting (i.e. illegals and felons), but is people voting the dead and destitute (i.e. Granny is in a retirement home and can't vote so somebody shows up at the pole for her or fills out here absentee ballet for her). Keep ignoring that simple fact.

    And keep a light shining on that IQ of yours...
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