Serious Q about VA and UO QB's
I know Oregon has a shit ton of talent on offense, but is Lockie good enough if they have to start him? Can Adams really come in late and expect to lead them to a championship?
From the sounds of Helfrich going full Willingham at media day saying stuff like, "We talk about the guys that are here", they can't be too happy about how this situation has played out with Adams. And it even sounds like they might have started to downplay Adams a bit now.
Thanks!
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If Lockie or any other QB on their roster was good, they wouldn't bother with Vernon's bullshit.
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Lockie is serviceable because he knows the system intimately and the players know and trust him. Unfortunately, the coachs have never played him in games with the starters nor have they unleashed him in his cleanup role. I think they screwed up. Adams passed his test(s) and has been working with the recvrs for a couple months. I have no idea which QB will be the primary or if one will play and then the other will play. We have Michigan State the second week.
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IMO, Boobs is probably good enough to QB them to a victory over a VA-less EWU and Georgia State. The smart money is on a loss at East Lansing. Utah at least is at Autzen, but it will be tough. Then the schedule doesn't really heat up again until the middle to end of October. So the question becomes can VA get up to speed by then?
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The Solid Verbal Podcast guy on SBN, said he's heard Lockie sucks (in so many words). He's also an Oregon alum, so he's probably dialed in.
Find it on the "podcast of champions" - fwiw they've had greats guests recently (Ted Miller, Thammel, Feldman, The SBN guy). -
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free.IPukeOregonGrellow said:IMO, Boobs is probably good enough to QB them to a victory over a VA-less EWU and Georgia State. The smart money is on a loss at East Lansing. Utah at least is at Autzen, but it will be tough. Then the schedule doesn't really heat up again until the middle to end of October. So the question becomes can VA get up to speed by then?
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Getting a QB "acclimated" to beat MSU on the road likely takes more than 3 weeks.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free.IPukeOregonGrellow said:IMO, Boobs is probably good enough to QB them to a victory over a VA-less EWU and Georgia State. The smart money is on a loss at East Lansing. Utah at least is at Autzen, but it will be tough. Then the schedule doesn't really heat up again until the middle to end of October. So the question becomes can VA get up to speed by then?
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I think I'll trust the coach who is 24-4 on this over a Hitler-mustached avatar.TierbsHsotBoobs said:If Lockie or any other QB on their roster was good, they wouldn't bother with Vernon's bullshit.
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Ted Miller and great in the same sentence? Seriously?BallSacked said:The Solid Verbal Podcast guy on SBN, said he's heard Lockie sucks (in so many words). He's also an Oregon alum, so he's probably dialed in.
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It's a tough game no matter what. Adams missing a week of practice isn't going to make a difference.BallSacked said:
Getting a QB "acclimated" to beat MSU on the road likely takes more than 3 weeks.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free.IPukeOregonGrellow said:IMO, Boobs is probably good enough to QB them to a victory over a VA-less EWU and Georgia State. The smart money is on a loss at East Lansing. Utah at least is at Autzen, but it will be tough. Then the schedule doesn't really heat up again until the middle to end of October. So the question becomes can VA get up to speed by then?
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You're better than that. Dude is 0-0 without Mariota.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I think I'll trust the coach who is 24-4 on this over a Hitler-mustached avatar.TierbsHsotBoobs said:If Lockie or any other QB on their roster was good, they wouldn't bother with Vernon's bullshit.
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Bash the coaches all you want, but if you're going to bash the Hitler-mustached avatars you won't last long.
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That's like saying Rick won a Rose Bowl just because of TuiTierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're better than that. Dude is 0-0 without Mariota.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I think I'll trust the coach who is 24-4 on this over a Hitler-mustached avatar.TierbsHsotBoobs said:If Lockie or any other QB on their roster was good, they wouldn't bother with Vernon's bullshit.
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When he missed all of spring, summer PRPs, and half of fall camp I think it matters.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a tough game no matter what. Adams missing a week of practice isn't going to make a difference.BallSacked said:
Getting a QB "acclimated" to beat MSU on the road likely takes more than 3 weeks.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free.IPukeOregonGrellow said:IMO, Boobs is probably good enough to QB them to a victory over a VA-less EWU and Georgia State. The smart money is on a loss at East Lansing. Utah at least is at Autzen, but it will be tough. Then the schedule doesn't really heat up again until the middle to end of October. So the question becomes can VA get up to speed by then?
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Wooshed!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You're better than that. Dude is 0-0 without Mariota.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I think I'll trust the coach who is 24-4 on this over a Hitler-mustached avatar.TierbsHsotBoobs said:If Lockie or any other QB on their roster was good, they wouldn't bother with Vernon's bullshit.
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Missing even the first three practices of fall camp is a big deal. Those are the heavy install days, it's not like he is just missing practice. He is missing: Film review with his position coach, film with his OC, film with the team, training/lifting, nutrition and maintenance of his cramps.
Throw that on to missing spring ball, summer workouts, more film study, sitting in meetings, learning how to study film with his new coaches. It is a big deal.
If he comes in a week late or even three days late he has missed a HUGE amount of work. Working with WR's on the side is fine, but it is no where near the same as what he could be doing if he was in school after or before spring ball. -
It's less that and more that the playoff committee will forgive an early loss to MSU under Lockie if the team makes amends by curb stomping USC, Stanford and the CCG opponent under VA in November. Is that what will happen? Right now, it's LIPO.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free.
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This is the Ohio scriptIPukeOregonGrellow said:
It's less that and more that the playoff committee will forgive an early loss to MSU under Lockie if the team makes amends by curb stomping USC, Stanford and the CCG opponent under VA in November. Is that what will happen? Right now, it's LIPO.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free. -
If Oregon is to win the Pac-12, it will be because of their skill guys on O and front 7 on D.
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Ohio State went 12-1 though. Oregon isn't doing that this year.Tequilla said:
This is the Ohio scriptIPukeOregonGrellow said:
It's less that and more that the playoff committee will forgive an early loss to MSU under Lockie if the team makes amends by curb stomping USC, Stanford and the CCG opponent under VA in November. Is that what will happen? Right now, it's LIPO.RoadDawg55 said:
This. They have time to get Adams acclimated before East Lansing. It sure helps having Royce Freeman and a bunch of good WR's too. All Lockie will have to do is hand the ball to Freeman/Tyner, throw a couple bubble screens, and hit play action passes with WR's running free. -
Judging by how well he does on his academis, VA will have a hard time cramming the UO playbook in time for this season.
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Muttzen said:
Judging by how well he does on his academis, VA will have a hard time cramming the UO playbook in time for the 2023 season.
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Missing the whole Summer is bigger than 3 practices. He has two gimmes to get acclimated before Michigan State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Missing even the first three practices of fall camp is a big deal. Those are the heavy install days, it's not like he is just missing practice. He is missing: Film review with his position coach, film with his OC, film with the team, training/lifting, nutrition and maintenance of his cramps.
Throw that on to missing spring ball, summer workouts, more film study, sitting in meetings, learning how to study film with his new coaches. It is a big deal.
If he comes in a week late or even three days late he has missed a HUGE amount of work. Working with WR's on the side is fine, but it is no where near the same as what he could be doing if he was in school after or before spring ball. -
one gimme*RoadDawg55 said:
Missing the whole Summer is bigger than 3 practices. He has two gimmes to get acclimated before Michigan State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Missing even the first three practices of fall camp is a big deal. Those are the heavy install days, it's not like he is just missing practice. He is missing: Film review with his position coach, film with his OC, film with the team, training/lifting, nutrition and maintenance of his cramps.
Throw that on to missing spring ball, summer workouts, more film study, sitting in meetings, learning how to study film with his new coaches. It is a big deal.
If he comes in a week late or even three days late he has missed a HUGE amount of work. Working with WR's on the side is fine, but it is no where near the same as what he could be doing if he was in school after or before spring ball.
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But stillBallSacked said:
one gimme*RoadDawg55 said:
Missing the whole Summer is bigger than 3 practices. He has two gimmes to get acclimated before Michigan State.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Missing even the first three practices of fall camp is a big deal. Those are the heavy install days, it's not like he is just missing practice. He is missing: Film review with his position coach, film with his OC, film with the team, training/lifting, nutrition and maintenance of his cramps.
Throw that on to missing spring ball, summer workouts, more film study, sitting in meetings, learning how to study film with his new coaches. It is a big deal.
If he comes in a week late or even three days late he has missed a HUGE amount of work. Working with WR's on the side is fine, but it is no where near the same as what he could be doing if he was in school after or before spring ball. -
why did he not take this class years ago?
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Because he is Vernon Adams Fucking StupidFenwick said:why did he not take this class years ago?
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I'm really going to enjoy watching VA pass for 4 TDs against UW this fallTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Because he is Vernon Adams Fucking StupidFenwick said:why did he not take this class years ago?
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UW doesn't play Eastern this year.AZDuck said:
I'm really going to enjoy watching VA pass for 4 TDs against UW this fallTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Because he is Vernon Adams Fucking StupidFenwick said:why did he not take this class years ago?
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Oregon is serious about football. Somehow, some way, he gets in
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Fair point. They're not dumb enough to play him against EWU though, are they?AZDuck said:Oregon is serious about football. Somehow, some way, he gets in
