On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.
That's funny
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.
I don't need to show your lack of spine. It is self evident. You're an administration lackey that lacks the guts to own your own bullshit.
And its not better, its worse and going to get even worse when it is all in.
The bill is a lie founded on a lie to fool the stupid. Back to where we began, that's you they are talking about
On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
Republicans are stupid. Being Democrat light is a stupid strategery. But my dog who I can now marry can come up with a better plan that HondoCare
We could have left everyone who had good insurance alone and sent checks to the people who needed help buying insurance and made it a whole lot easier.
The end game of Obama is single payer which some of you like. I'm willing to look at a plan where that isn't the goal.
I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.
That's funny
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.
I don't need to show your lack of spine. It is self evident. You're an administration lackey that lacks the guts to own your own bullshit.
And its not better, its worse and going to get even worse when it is all in.
The bill is a lie founded on a lie to fool the stupid. Back to where we began, that's you they are talking about
On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
There's a real opportunity for the GOP here. They could make the federal Obamacare more efficient and function more like Romneycare, which didn't have to make the same stupid politically expedient compromises that Obamacare did as legislation. Then they could run on having "saved" healthcare, and steal the credit and the issue from the Dems, saying "Dems fucked this up, so we made it right." Obama would probably sign because (a) it would work better in practice, and (b) it would make him feel bi-partisany and tingly all over, and that seems to get him to his happy place (see the Trans-Pacific Partnership)
Alas, the best the GOP will come up with is some block grant or voucher bullshit that Obama will veto, and the Dems will own the issue in 2016 and elect Hillary.
On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
There's a real opportunity for the GOP here. They could make the federal Obamacare more efficient and function more like Romneycare, which didn't have to make the same stupid politically expedient compromises that Obamacare did as legislation. Then they could run on having "saved" healthcare, and steal the credit and the issue from the Dems, saying "Dems fucked this up, so we made it right." Obama would probably sign because (a) it would work better in practice, and (b) it would make him feel bi-partisany and tingly all over, and that seems to get him to his happy place (see the Trans-Pacific Partnership)
Alas, the best the GOP will come up with is some block grant or voucher bullshit that Obama will veto, and the Dems will own the issue in 2016 and elect Hillary.
I weep for my country
My only disagreement is that when Hillary actually has to run she loses. She won't get the nomination. Sanders will cause panic in New Hampshire and some dems will find the balls to take her on.
The three years between elections when she can act like its in the bag are her greatest moments. When she has to campaign people are like - fuck not this bitch
You may be right, Race. Hillary hasn't won shit outside of New York. Personally, I'd love to see Sanders win - I think he is radically honest and eventually that resonates with people. But I don't think America is ready for a paradigm-shift candidate just yet.
Hillary's saving grace is that the GOP field looks ridiculous at the moment. I thought Jeb! was going to be the guy, but he has bungled a series of major public messages which tell me maybe he isn't ready for prime time after all. John Kasich is a guy who could win, and he scares me a little bit because he will run as a moderate but is much more conservative than he lets on. That said, he actually *is* moderate on some issues, so who knows, maybe I might like him after all.
I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.
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It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
We could have left everyone who had good insurance alone and sent checks to the people who needed help buying insurance and made it a whole lot easier.
The end game of Obama is single payer which some of you like. I'm willing to look at a plan where that isn't the goal.
Alas, the best the GOP will come up with is some block grant or voucher bullshit that Obama will veto, and the Dems will own the issue in 2016 and elect Hillary.
I weep for my country
The three years between elections when she can act like its in the bag are her greatest moments. When she has to campaign people are like - fuck not this bitch
The aura of inevitability meets reality
Hillary's saving grace is that the GOP field looks ridiculous at the moment. I thought Jeb! was going to be the guy, but he has bungled a series of major public messages which tell me maybe he isn't ready for prime time after all. John Kasich is a guy who could win, and he scares me a little bit because he will run as a moderate but is much more conservative than he lets on. That said, he actually *is* moderate on some issues, so who knows, maybe I might like him after all.