Pass the bill to find out what's in it
He added: "The architects and authors of Obamacare were intentional in the way they wrote the law.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mike-huckabee-supreme-court-just-150134987.html
This was in 2013:
Congressional Democrats passed Obamacare so they could find out what’s in it. Now, they’re desperately trying to keep you from finding out what’s in it until after the next election…
https://m.facebook.com/mikehuckabee/posts/10151529221522869
Which is it Mike?
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Huckabee is a moron.
As for your question...this guy answers it pretty well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U
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Huckabee is complaining about the Supreme Court upholding a law?
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I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat -
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None of the Republican candidates have me concerned yet.
Viva la gridlock -
Gridlock has proven greater than full conservative power. Anyone remember losing 800k jobs a month?AZDuck said:None of the Republican candidates have me concerned yet.
Viva la gridlock -
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Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat -
Neither was Karl Rove. Your point?2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat -
Touche. Karl Rove had his hand in fucking up the country. He hasn't come to grips with his failures yet like Gruber has. He still is yelling that Romney won.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Neither was Karl Rove. Your point?2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat -
GrundleStiltzkin said:
Neither was Karl Rove. Your point?2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
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You're better than that, DuckAZDuck said:GrundleStiltzkin said:
Neither was Karl Rove. Your point?2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat -
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again2001400ex said:
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
There won't be another republican in the white house.
Amerika is stronger when united behind one party rule. -
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.RaceBannon said:
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again2001400ex said:
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny -
I don't need to show your lack of spine. It is self evident. You're an administration lackey that lacks the guts to own your own bullshit.2001400ex said:
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.RaceBannon said:
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again2001400ex said:
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny
And its not better, its worse and going to get even worse when it is all in.
The bill is a lie founded on a lie to fool the stupid. Back to where we began, that's you they are talking about -
On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name) -
You are so cute when you are pressing race.RaceBannon said:
I don't need to show your lack of spine. It is self evident. You're an administration lackey that lacks the guts to own your own bullshit.2001400ex said:
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.RaceBannon said:
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again2001400ex said:
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny
And its not better, its worse and going to get even worse when it is all in.
The bill is a lie founded on a lie to fool the stupid. Back to where we began, that's you they are talking about -
Republicans are stupid. Being Democrat light is a stupid strategery. But my dog who I can now marry can come up with a better plan that HondoCarebananasnblondes said:On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
We could have left everyone who had good insurance alone and sent checks to the people who needed help buying insurance and made it a whole lot easier.
The end game of Obama is single payer which some of you like. I'm willing to look at a plan where that isn't the goal. -
We were done here after my first post.2001400ex said:
You are so cute when you are pressing race.RaceBannon said:
I don't need to show your lack of spine. It is self evident. You're an administration lackey that lacks the guts to own your own bullshit.2001400ex said:
You don't read well. Show me where I've said the bill is great. All I've said is it's better than the system that preceded it. Which is like saying Derek is smarter than you. While it may be true, it doesn't mean much.RaceBannon said:
Gruber is on your side. You're proving him right again2001400ex said:
I'm not surprised you side with the psychotic dude.RaceBannon said:
Gruber thinks you're stupid. I can't disagree2001400ex said:
Race you are smarter than that. Read for context.RaceBannon said:
Funny I don't see what that has to do with anything. He was a paid administration consultant who helped write the bill and get it passed and he is laughing at people like you.2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
That's funny
And its not better, its worse and going to get even worse when it is all in.
The bill is a lie founded on a lie to fool the stupid. Back to where we began, that's you they are talking about -
There's a real opportunity for the GOP here. They could make the federal Obamacare more efficient and function more like Romneycare, which didn't have to make the same stupid politically expedient compromises that Obamacare did as legislation. Then they could run on having "saved" healthcare, and steal the credit and the issue from the Dems, saying "Dems fucked this up, so we made it right." Obama would probably sign because (a) it would work better in practice, and (b) it would make him feel bi-partisany and tingly all over, and that seems to get him to his happy place (see the Trans-Pacific Partnership)bananasnblondes said:On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
Alas, the best the GOP will come up with is some block grant or voucher bullshit that Obama will veto, and the Dems will own the issue in 2016 and elect Hillary.
I weep for my country -
My only disagreement is that when Hillary actually has to run she loses. She won't get the nomination. Sanders will cause panic in New Hampshire and some dems will find the balls to take her on.AZDuck said:
There's a real opportunity for the GOP here. They could make the federal Obamacare more efficient and function more like Romneycare, which didn't have to make the same stupid politically expedient compromises that Obamacare did as legislation. Then they could run on having "saved" healthcare, and steal the credit and the issue from the Dems, saying "Dems fucked this up, so we made it right." Obama would probably sign because (a) it would work better in practice, and (b) it would make him feel bi-partisany and tingly all over, and that seems to get him to his happy place (see the Trans-Pacific Partnership)bananasnblondes said:On an interesting side note, it appears the republican candidates are backing away from "I will repeal Obamacare" and are now moving towards having their own health care legislation with a different name. Instead of the Affordable Care Act, we will have the American Care Act or the Patient Care Act, or whatever.
It reminds me of when Randy Dorn was elected as Superintendant of Public Instruction a few years ago promising that if he were elected, he would get rid of the WASL (the state standardized test). Of course he won, and introduced the MSP (the exact same thing as the WASL, except with a new name)
Alas, the best the GOP will come up with is some block grant or voucher bullshit that Obama will veto, and the Dems will own the issue in 2016 and elect Hillary.
I weep for my country
The three years between elections when she can act like its in the bag are her greatest moments. When she has to campaign people are like - fuck not this bitch
The aura of inevitability meets reality -
You may be right, Race. Hillary hasn't won shit outside of New York. Personally, I'd love to see Sanders win - I think he is radically honest and eventually that resonates with people. But I don't think America is ready for a paradigm-shift candidate just yet.
Hillary's saving grace is that the GOP field looks ridiculous at the moment. I thought Jeb! was going to be the guy, but he has bungled a series of major public messages which tell me maybe he isn't ready for prime time after all. John Kasich is a guy who could win, and he scares me a little bit because he will run as a moderate but is much more conservative than he lets on. That said, he actually *is* moderate on some issues, so who knows, maybe I might like him after all. -
No, he's notGrundleStiltzkin said:
You're better than that, DuckAZDuck said:GrundleStiltzkin said:
Neither was Karl Rove. Your point?2001400ex said:
Funny, I don't remember Gruber being an elected official.RaceBannon said:I only read the headline but there is clearly room for disagreement on the ruling today. Futile though it may be.
The state exchange was intended to be a state exchange to force the states to make exchanges in order to get paid. Gruber is on tape saying that while mocking the stupid people they fooled with this bill.
Just like saying a tax isn't a tax.
I suspect those celebrating today will be back to worrying about the constitution when a republican is in the white house. lather rinse repeat
