Thoughts on Basic Income (serious discussion only, plz)
Interesting alternative to the current system of entitlements, with added upside for society as a whole.
What do you economic scholars say?
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Confiscatory.
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Unsustainable.
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That already exists, it's called a tax refund
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That already exists, it's called a job
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I think the idea of everyone getting something back make sense. But the problem is, the poor only think the should get money from the government. Thus, policies will be put into place to raise taxes as much as the basic income which causes more confusion and middle class Americans getting nothing back.
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Entitlements as they currently exist are unsustainable. And they're not really helping those who are truly poor (~15%).
For the sake of discussion, isn't trying something new better than doing the same old shit? -
A solution would be to make welfare like unemployment (temporary), unless you have a "real" disability. If you have paralysis, old age, blind, extreme mental disorders, etc. what needs to stop is lazy cry babies getting SSI for shit like anxiety. I think 90% of middle America suffers from that. Another term is working 45-50 hours a week, making just enough to feed your kids and pay bills. The other "disorder" is obesity. When has that become a disorder? If you're fat it should be more of an incentive to get a job, maybe one that requires some form of standing.
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The idea would be to eliminate all the bullshit. Every entitlement gets eliminated (EIC, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc.). Everyone gets a check, no questions asked.greenblood said:A solution would be to make welfare like unemployment (temporary), unless you have a "real" disability. If you have paralysis, old age, blind, extreme mental disorders, etc. what needs to stop is lazy cry babies getting SSI for shit like anxiety. I think 90% of middle America suffers from that. Another term is working 45-50 hours a week, making just enough to feed your kids and pay bills. The other "disorder" is obesity. When has that become a disorder? If you're fat it should be more of an incentive to get a job, maybe one that requires some form of standing.
Unlike welfare, you can still work full time and receive the benefit. This allows those living below the poverty level to afford basic needs (food, shelter). Work is not disincentivized. -
So it's partial but equal socialism? InterestingThomasFremont said:
The idea would be to eliminate all the bullshit. Every entitlement gets eliminated (EIC, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc.). Everyone gets a check, no questions asked.greenblood said:A solution would be to make welfare like unemployment (temporary), unless you have a "real" disability. If you have paralysis, old age, blind, extreme mental disorders, etc. what needs to stop is lazy cry babies getting SSI for shit like anxiety. I think 90% of middle America suffers from that. Another term is working 45-50 hours a week, making just enough to feed your kids and pay bills. The other "disorder" is obesity. When has that become a disorder? If you're fat it should be more of an incentive to get a job, maybe one that requires some form of standing.
Unlike welfare, you can still work full time and receive the benefit. This allows those living below the poverty level to afford basic needs (food, shelter). Work is not disincentivized. -
You sure about that?ThomasFremont said:
The idea would be to eliminate all the bullshit. Every entitlement gets eliminated (EIC, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc.). Everyone gets a check, no questions asked.greenblood said:A solution would be to make welfare like unemployment (temporary), unless you have a "real" disability. If you have paralysis, old age, blind, extreme mental disorders, etc. what needs to stop is lazy cry babies getting SSI for shit like anxiety. I think 90% of middle America suffers from that. Another term is working 45-50 hours a week, making just enough to feed your kids and pay bills. The other "disorder" is obesity. When has that become a disorder? If you're fat it should be more of an incentive to get a job, maybe one that requires some form of standing.
Unlike welfare, you can still work full time and receive the benefit. This allows those living below the poverty level to afford basic needs (food, shelter). Work is not disincentivized.
