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CFetters_Nacho_Lover · June 2015

whatshouldicareabout said:

RoadDawg55 said:
I think Pepsi's 18 is on the lower end. Somewhere between 18-22 would be my guess.

13 seniors and Miles' likely departure is 14. I bet we see a couple more defections before the start of the season. Guys will get in trouble, slack off, go home when try should stay, etc. Then there will be a couple transfers/medical retirements after the season.
I'm not sure how accurate this is, but whenever I am curious about the scholarship numbers or where kids are, I often use this spreadsheet that's updated by Chris Landon:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m_vhaFS8J1PQOSEb6OfUkkBXy3CacQG1jt4sDT2Doe8/edit?pli=1#gid=1348291839

It seems to count Masel as a scholarship LS, which would put us at 14 for this year but it also says we're at 87, so I'm not sure what'll happen between now and fall camp.

I find it amusing that some random TBS fan can come up with a spreadsheet like that's online, easy to understand and clearly show the roster number while the Lemon Party Trio write TL, DR stories about the team and tries to project the roster with 10,000 word essays that still don't tell you shit about the roster.

bananasnblondes · June 2015

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

HFNY said:
I think we're in his top 3 or 5.

Wouldn't be surprised if he eventually commits to CP. Took only one CB last year (Miller) so probably 2 or 3 are slated for the 2016 class.

I had a post about a month ago that this class will be 12-14 guys but I'm now thinking more like 15 or 16.

If a veteran coach like Petersen only takes 12-14 he should be fucking fired in the parking lot. That is some Sark type noob shit. Either buy in and improve see the field or transfer. Its not a difficult concept

The number will probably be around 16-17. It's a result of the previous coach recruiting a bunch of flame-outs, and hence, there are very few graduating players. It's also because kids ARE buying into Petersen's program. Ektard, of LPT fame, finally admitted this week that they misjudged how many kids would be leaving the program because they wouldn't "buy in to Petersen's mantra". It turns out a lot of players prefer a staff of adults to a group of waitress-chasing frat-tards. But since we have to avoid doing "sark type noob shit"at all costs, we need to tell 7 or 8 players currently on scholarship that they need to pack up their shit and leave. That will go over just wonderfully with kids buying into the program Petersen is pimping to them and I'm sure the media will have wonderful things to say about that strategy.

In fact, this is the exact opposite of the "sark type noob shit" you describe. If you look back at Sark's classes, he was always taking a ton of kids, many of whom didn't deserve scholarship offers. If you have 16 spots to fill, you take the best 16 kids you can in the class. Eventually the classes will round out.

whatshouldicareabout · June 2015

bananasnblondes said:

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

HFNY said:
I think we're in his top 3 or 5.

Wouldn't be surprised if he eventually commits to CP. Took only one CB last year (Miller) so probably 2 or 3 are slated for the 2016 class.

I had a post about a month ago that this class will be 12-14 guys but I'm now thinking more like 15 or 16.

If a veteran coach like Petersen only takes 12-14 he should be fucking fired in the parking lot. That is some Sark type noob shit. Either buy in and improve see the field or transfer. Its not a difficult concept
The number will probably be around 16-17. It's a result of the previous coach recruiting a bunch of flame-outs, and hence, there are very few graduating players. It's also because kids ARE buying into Petersen's program. Ektard, of LPT fame, finally admitted this week that they misjudged how many kids would be leaving the program because they wouldn't "buy in to Petersen's mantra". It turns out a lot of players prefer a staff of adults to a group of waitress-chasing frat-tards. But since we have to avoid doing "sark type noob shit"at all costs, we need to tell 7 or 8 players currently on scholarship that they need to pack up their shit and leave. That will go over just wonderfully with kids buying into the program Petersen is pimping to them and I'm sure the media will have wonderful things to say about that strategy.

In fact, this is the exact opposite of the "sark type noob shit" you describe. If you look back at Sark's classes, he was always taking a ton of kids, many of whom didn't deserve scholarship offers. If you have 16 spots to fill, you take the best 16 kids you can in the class. Eventually the classes will round out.

Agreed. Petersen has his way of recruiting, and it's founded on building a relationship with the players. He isn't like Sark who only pays attention to the stars and starters (and who doesn't scream at his players too while drunk in the team hotel). I'd really say something about Petersen if he was losing 7-8 players each year that he has built a relationship with.

HFNY · June 2015

As others have mentioned, attrition is running less than some thought and Petersen and Co. look to build long-term relationships with players.

So it's not hard to imagine Petersen's 3rd class being his smallest.

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

HFNY said:
I think we're in his top 3 or 5.

Wouldn't be surprised if he eventually commits to CP. Took only one CB last year (Miller) so probably 2 or 3 are slated for the 2016 class.

I had a post about a month ago that this class will be 12-14 guys but I'm now thinking more like 15 or 16.

If a veteran coach like Petersen only takes 12-14 he should be fucking fired in the parking lot. That is some Sark type noob shit. Either buy in and improve see the field or transfer. Its not a difficult concept

RoadDawg55 · June 2015

It's unhealthy to have Sark levels of attrition, but attrition will happen with Petersen too. It happens at every school. Guys get hurt, guys get burnt out, some guys realize they will never play and move on. Attrition isn't just the cause of the coach being a lazy POS and forcing out shitty players. Petersen and his staff thoroughly evaluate the players, but a certain level of attrition is unavoidable.

5 guys from now until next Summer is not many at all. That's all that is needed to get to 18. I think expecting almost no attrition and a class of 13-15 would be dangerous for a program that needs a serious influx of talent.

dnc · June 2015

RoadDawg55 said:
It's unhealthy to have Sark levels of attrition, but attrition will happen with Petersen too. It happens at every school. Guys get hurt, guys get burnt out, some guys realize they will never play and move on. Attrition isn't just the cause of the coach being a lazy POS and forcing out shitty players. Petersen and his staff thoroughly evaluate the players, but a certain level of attrition is unavoidable.

5 guys from now until next Summer is not many at all. That's all that is needed to get to 18. I think expecting almost no attrition and a class of 13-15 would be dangerous for a program that needs a serious influx of talent.

Expecting 13-15 is Kim Grinolds FS