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Kansas ends conservative experiment

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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    edited June 2015
    How's the Liberal bastion of Illinois' credit rating again? Kansas has problems, but it pales in comparison to the problems facing states like Illinois, California, New York, etc. you know, all those Liberal strongholds.

    I love it when the ignorant (like Honda) start saying 'hey, you have a match on fire' over there while ignoring the 10 story building burning behind him.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited June 2015

    How's the Liberal bastion of Illinois' credit rating again? Kansas has problems, but it pales in comparison to the problems facing states like Illinois, California, New York, etc. you know, all those Liberal strongholds.

    I love it when the ignorant (like Honda) start saying 'hey, you have a match on fire' over there while ignoring the 10 story building burning behind him.

    Illinois has the lowest credit rating of all the states (A- Negative from S&P). Pension costs are eating it alive with no visible way out. NJ is the next lowest at A Stable.
    NY is AA+ Stable, the same as WA and OR.
    Cal is A+ postive. With its new budget next week and next notes and bonds coming later in the summer, it will surely get to AA- (the market has already priced it in). If S&P's next move with Kansas is a downgrade, it will have the same rating as Cal.

    I didn't raise the issue about bond ratings initially but replied to Sarkastic who did. My question is what the hell does one company's opinion about the likelihood bondholders get paid back have to do with the most efficient mix of taxing and spending to generate the strongest ongoing economy? Illinois is screwing themselves over badly but Kansas is not creating an economic or social wonderland either.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    See title of thread and see the posts in the thread. If you can't figure out the ignorance of saying "Kansas ends conservative experiment" and citing their budget/policy as the cause of budget issues and ignore all of the issues California (still one of the lowest ratings in the nation), Illinois, NY, Michigan, etc. and ignore the (Liberal) policies that got them in much worse trouble I can't help you.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    See title of thread and see the posts in the thread. If you can't figure out the ignorance of saying "Kansas ends conservative experiment" and citing their budget/policy as the cause of budget issues and ignore all of the issues California (still one of the lowest ratings in the nation), Illinois, NY, Michigan, etc. and ignore the (Liberal) policies that got them in much worse trouble I can't help you.

    Then we agree. You definitely cannot help me. Thanks.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    See title of thread and see the posts in the thread. If you can't figure out the ignorance of saying "Kansas ends conservative experiment" and citing their budget/policy as the cause of budget issues and ignore all of the issues California (still one of the lowest ratings in the nation), Illinois, NY, Michigan, etc. and ignore the (Liberal) policies that got them in much worse trouble I can't help you.

    If you can't read the title of the thread without deflecting to liberal states, then I can't help you.

    Here's a hint, all politicians spend too much money.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    2001400ex said:

    See title of thread and see the posts in the thread. If you can't figure out the ignorance of saying "Kansas ends conservative experiment" and citing their budget/policy as the cause of budget issues and ignore all of the issues California (still one of the lowest ratings in the nation), Illinois, NY, Michigan, etc. and ignore the (Liberal) policies that got them in much worse trouble I can't help you.

    If you can't read the title of the thread without deflecting to liberal states, then I can't help you.

    Here's a hint, all politicians spend too much money.
    *Everybody does it
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    It sounds like the People of Kansas are willing to sacrifice a downgrade on their credit so they can enjoy top funded schools with taxes that help promote economic activity... and if its not enough, tax somebody else to pay for it for me I cant/wont.

    Something about an increase of 8.2% in expenditures seems lost by some of you.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It sounds like the People of Kansas are willing to sacrifice a downgrade on their credit so they can enjoy top funded schools with taxes that help promote economic activity... and if its not enough, tax somebody else to pay for it for me I cant/wont.

    Something about an increase of 8.2% in expenditures seems lost by some of you.

    Cut tax and spend. Sounds like a winning formula.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Illinois is a fucking dumpster fire.

    California is a fucking dumpster fire.

    Nobody seems to wonder why it is weird they keep doubling down on higher taxes, more regulation, and more spending.

    But a guy, in fucking Kansas, lowers taxes and invests in education, reduces regulation ... and he is fucking Satan.

    Ask yourself this one question ... If you were offered three jobs making $20,000 more than you are making now ... one was in Kansas City, Kansas ... one was in Chicago, IL. and one was in California ... where would that $20k go the furthest.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    topdawgnc said:

    Illinois is a fucking dumpster fire.

    California is a fucking dumpster fire.

    Nobody seems to wonder why it is weird they keep doubling down on higher taxes, more regulation, and more spending.

    But a guy, in fucking Kansas, lowers taxes and invests in education, reduces regulation ... and he is fucking Satan.

    Ask yourself this one question ... If you were offered three jobs making $20,000 more than you are making now ... one was in Kansas City, Kansas ... one was in Chicago, IL. and one was in California ... where would that $20k go the furthest.

    Have you heard of supply and demand? No one wants to live in Kansas. Hence cheaper cost of living. Not to mention, you are not only projecting, you are distracting. Where is the copy/paste from death?