Ben Stein: Hillary Clinton Hasn’t Accomplished Anything in Her Life
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Hi there:Southerndawg said:
Qualifications didn't elect Obama. Romney in particular was far more qualified. But we have a largely uninformed electorate who is more concerned with what's on TV than with what's going on in the world. In both elections Obama was the "cooler" candidate with overwhelming support from the media and those in popular culture. Hillary has the same advantage. Both the GOP and the Democrat Party have potential candidates with greater qualifications, but for the Democrats, it's her turn and they're all in, and for the GOP, the challenge isn't finding someone more qualified, it's finding someone more electable.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
If Hillary is so damn unqualified, why are the Republicans worried about her?Southerndawg said:
You're all over the map. No one yet knows who the GOP candidate is going to be. All we know at this point is that the democrats are all in with Hillary, and that she is in no way, shape or form qualified, which is the point of the OP.dflea said:
Pull your fuckin' head out, fool. If the GOP doesn't come up with someone other than the clowns they've been parading about so far, Hillary WILL be the POTUS, and your stupid fuckin' 0-12 comments won't help anyone. What the fuck is wrong with the GOP - why can't they find someone that won't lose to her unqualified ass?Southerndawg said:
Ben Stein and many others are right. Hillary hasn't done jack shit. She has zero qualifications for the job, and it should be beyond clear after 7 years of Obama that real qualifications are necessary for the job. Accepting the job he's done as some sort of new norm is idiotic. That sort of logic will lead to another 0-12, but I guess that's okay so long as it's another Democrat. Sorry but that's beyond FS.
It's because dipshits like you and d2d are too fuckin' busy being worried about Hillary's dirty laundry to find someone in the GOP to beat her. I'm begging to vote for the GOP candidate, but I WILL vote for Race Bannon if the GOP fucks it up again - and chances are, they will.
The #1 qualification for the job is getting elected. It's a lesson that Republicans have forgotten over the past 20 years.
I love Reagan. If we worried about qualifications, he would have never been Governor of California, much less President.
GWB was certainly "more qualified" than Reagan and his Presidency was terrible. -
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Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama. -
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama. -
Your savior is still running a half-TRILLION dollar deficit you disingenuous fuck.2001400ex said:
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama. -
About 1/3 of the deficit of Dubyas last budget. If you don't want to be disingenuous.pawz said:
Your savior is still running a half-TRILLION dollar deficit you disingenuous fuck.2001400ex said:
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama. -
Nice red-herring as always. If you say liberals actually care about deficits long enough, some fucking idiots (read: more liberals) might actually believe you.2001400ex said:
About 1/3 of the deficit of Dubyas last budget. If you don't want to be disingenuous.pawz said:
Your savior is still running a half-TRILLION dollar deficit you disingenuous fuck.2001400ex said:
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama. -
Neither party gives a shit about deficits when they are in power.pawz said:
Nice red-herring as always. If you say liberals actually care about deficits long enough, some fucking idiots (read: more liberals) might actually believe you.2001400ex said:
About 1/3 of the deficit of Dubyas last budget. If you don't want to be disingenuous.pawz said:
Your savior is still running a half-TRILLION dollar deficit you disingenuous fuck.2001400ex said:
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama.
HTH -
Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
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I seriously think he is a hired troll.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
Reminds me of the poster Bushmolestor from back in the Unleashed days that mysteriously disappeared after W won a second term. -
Purple doesn't like facts.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
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I love people that need lessons in how to read charts:
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1992_2020USp_16s1li011mcn_G0f30t_Annual_Federal_Deficit
The nation prospered during the 1990s due to an explosion in technological efficiency creating a massive tech bubble combined with policies created by the Clinton led White House and Gingrich led Congress (I don't care who you want to give the majority of the credit to for that because to get what they got done done they both needed each other). You can see the effect of this by the declining deficit over this time period. One area where Clinton gained a lot in picking up ground on the deficit was by cutting defense spending ...
You'll see that the deficit started to pick up shortly after Dubya took office in January 2001 and that coincided with an uptick in military. There were two primary reasons for this. First, one of the main criticisms of what Clinton did with the military was that many viewed it as poorly equipped and inadequately prepared. Second, the impact of 9/11 hastened the need not only for what was the military action against terrorist networks that resulted, but also investment in military intelligence to protect against the modern terrorist threat. Additionally, for those that don't remember (and as a Senior at the UW at the time trying to find a job I'll never forget this), as soon as 9/11 happened, the job market dried up immediately. While the unemployment rate was slowly rising as Dubya inherited the office from Clinton, the big upticks came around the time of 9/11 going forward.
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
About midway through Dubya's first term as the economy turned around and success in Iraq/Afghanistan was evident, you'll find that the deficit and military spending once again decreased as economic prosperity once again became the rule of the day. The massive spike that you see is tied to the banking/housing bubble burst as well as the automotive industry falling on its face. How much of that you put the blame on Dubya (many of the policies that led to this were created during the Clinton Administration) is debatable. He clearly could have probably been more proactive. Could very easily accuse the Fed of being asleep at the wheel.
Obama had a number of issues early in his presidency. While he has brought down spending compared to what he inherited, the biggest issue many have with his spending is that at no point is he projecting to do anything other than get to as low as Dubya's highest points (excluding the '08 crashes). His spending is generally irresponsible and he's got absolutely no problem spending what he doesn't have. It's very hard to argue against that when you look at the graphs and projections. -
I agree mostly with this as it is factual. It's just as dumb to blame dubya for the bubble (he does have his blame, along with wall street/banks, democrats, and other Republicans) as it would be to blame Obama for a $1.5 trillion deficit.Tequilla said:I love people that need lessons in how to read charts:
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1992_2020USp_16s1li011mcn_G0f30t_Annual_Federal_Deficit
The nation prospered during the 1990s due to an explosion in technological efficiency creating a massive tech bubble combined with policies created by the Clinton led White House and Gingrich led Congress (I don't care who you want to give the majority of the credit to for that because to get what they got done done they both needed each other). You can see the effect of this by the declining deficit over this time period. One area where Clinton gained a lot in picking up ground on the deficit was by cutting defense spending ...
You'll see that the deficit started to pick up shortly after Dubya took office in January 2001 and that coincided with an uptick in military. There were two primary reasons for this. First, one of the main criticisms of what Clinton did with the military was that many viewed it as poorly equipped and inadequately prepared. Second, the impact of 9/11 hastened the need not only for what was the military action against terrorist networks that resulted, but also investment in military intelligence to protect against the modern terrorist threat. Additionally, for those that don't remember (and as a Senior at the UW at the time trying to find a job I'll never forget this), as soon as 9/11 happened, the job market dried up immediately. While the unemployment rate was slowly rising as Dubya inherited the office from Clinton, the big upticks came around the time of 9/11 going forward.
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
About midway through Dubya's first term as the economy turned around and success in Iraq/Afghanistan was evident, you'll find that the deficit and military spending once again decreased as economic prosperity once again became the rule of the day. The massive spike that you see is tied to the banking/housing bubble burst as well as the automotive industry falling on its face. How much of that you put the blame on Dubya (many of the policies that led to this were created during the Clinton Administration) is debatable. He clearly could have probably been more proactive. Could very easily accuse the Fed of being asleep at the wheel.
Obama had a number of issues early in his presidency. While he has brought down spending compared to what he inherited, the biggest issue many have with his spending is that at no point is he projecting to do anything other than get to as low as Dubya's highest points (excluding the '08 crashes). His spending is generally irresponsible and he's got absolutely no problem spending what he doesn't have. It's very hard to argue against that when you look at the graphs and projections.
The one part you forget to mention about Bush was he twice tried to fix the economy by sending checks directly to taxpayers. Along with tax cuts while going into war. TARP was also his bill and the stimulus was Obama's bill. Both were needed and saved us from a much worse collapse. -
Disagree. hondo is still getting paid by the Obama camp and while he will defend generic Dem viewpoints from time to time, he won't won't go fullTard Hillary until he's been released from his current assignment. She isn't engaging media yet and prolly won't for some time.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
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I know you are being sarcastic. But I don't defend Obama, I call you guys out for being FS and believing anything you read on the internet.sarktastic said:
Disagree. hondo is still getting paid by the Obama camp and while he will defend generic Dem viewpoints from time to time, he won't won't go fullTard Hillary until he's been released from his current assignment. She isn't engaging media yet and prolly won't for some time.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
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Reminds me of a joke that UO Law School faculty members used to tell: "What kind of job can you get if you were at the bottom of your class at UO Law? - U.S. Senator!" (Ron Wyden was an underwhelming law student in Eugene, apparently)Tequilla said:
If we're going to start bashing Dubya, I'm out ...dflea said:He's not lying.
Look at the last couple fucktards that have held the office, though, and you'll see that any dipshit has the necessary qualifications - even if they have no qualifications at all.
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pawz said:
I seriously think he is a hired troll.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
Reminds me of the poster Bushmolestor from back in the Unleashed days that mysteriously disappeared after W won a second term.
@2001400ex I like how you ignored the other remark.2001400ex said:
Purple doesn't like facts.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
Disagree.2001400ex said:
I know you are being sarcastic. But I don't defend Obama, I call you guys out for being FS and believing anything you read on the internet.sarktastic said:
Disagree. hondo is still getting paid by the Obama camp and while he will defend generic Dem viewpoints from time to time, he won't won't go fullTard Hillary until he's been released from his current assignment. She isn't engaging media yet and prolly won't for some time.PurpleJ said:Love how Honda is always here to defend democrats every time they are attacked in a thread.
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And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
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AbrasiveTheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
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2001400ex said:
About 1/3 of the deficit of Dubyas last budget. If you don't want to be disingenuous.pawz said:
Your savior is still running a half-TRILLION dollar deficit you disingenuous fuck.2001400ex said:
Yeah I liked it when deficits didn't matter, we bombed the shit out of them Muslims and we were losing 800k jobs a month.Tequilla said:Dubya did some good things in his first term ... second term not as many.
That being said, I'd take him 100 out of 100 times compared to Obama.
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Actually Ben Stein is an accomplished intelligent design advocate. Unfortunately that probably actually helps his credibility on this abortion of a bored.TheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
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His movie was pretty good when he got the atheist expert to speculate that humans could have been seeded by aliens as he argued against ID.allpurpleallgold said:
Actually Ben Stein is an accomplished intelligent design advocate. Unfortunately that probably actually helps his credibility on this abortion of a bored.TheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
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But then who made the aliens?????RaceBannon said:
His movie was pretty good when he got the atheist expert to speculate that humans could have been seeded by aliens as he argued against ID.allpurpleallgold said:
Actually Ben Stein is an accomplished intelligent design advocate. Unfortunately that probably actually helps his credibility on this abortion of a bored.TheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
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DerekJohnson said:
But then who made the aliens?????RaceBannon said:
His movie was pretty good when he got the atheist expert to speculate that humans could have been seeded by aliens as he argued against ID.allpurpleallgold said:
Actually Ben Stein is an accomplished intelligent design advocate. Unfortunately that probably actually helps his credibility on this abortion of a bored.TheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
Fuck you.
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Stephen Hawking seeded the aliens. He's lying about his age and using ALS as a cover.DerekJohnson said:
But then who made the aliens?????RaceBannon said:
His movie was pretty good when he got the atheist expert to speculate that humans could have been seeded by aliens as he argued against ID.allpurpleallgold said:
Actually Ben Stein is an accomplished intelligent design advocate. Unfortunately that probably actually helps his credibility on this abortion of a bored.TheGlove said:And you're listening to a washed up actor and game show host.
Fuck you. -
Star dust makes the ingredients for life (sperm), Earth is the egg.
Panspermia??
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What the fuck is this thread even about anymore? 3-4 pages in and it has multiple tequila-length posts? Is it worth reading through all of this? Somebody help me out. Is there a TLDR summary?
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Yes.OZONE said:What the fuck is this thread even about anymore? 3-4 pages in and it has multiple tequila-length posts? Is it worth reading through all of this? Somebody help me out. Is there a TLDR summary?
FO, O.
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OZONE said:
What the fuck is this thread even about anymore? 3-4 pages in and it has multiple tequila-length posts? Is it worth reading through all of this? Somebody help me out. Is there a TLDR summary?
