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  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited May 2015

    Doogles said:

    Fuck the money. You can only put so many juice bars in the locker room. Everybody in the Pac has enough money to be nationally successful ( maybe not the cougs). Just win. Beat the shit out of someone. Why should I care about the big or sec revenue streams? Why should I care about any other team in the Pacs? Washington has more than enough to win a championship.

    Motherfucking do it.

    More money = better coaches.

    Notice how the conference went from Wulff, Erickson, Stoops, and Embree to Leach, Graham, RichRod, and McIntyre in one year after the TV deal? Do you think the conference would've been better had they paid Carroll, Harbaugh, Kelly, etc. more?
    Even today look on the sidelines of your UW/UCLA/Arizonas vs that of an Alabama. There are loads more coaches and support staff in the SEC than Pac12. They have more money and can afford the additional payroll for that staff. Fuck they pay DCs over $1M/yr in the shit cheap southeast.

    I would also guess the pac12 puts more money into spring sports than the SEC. So they take in less and spend more outside of football. Getting more money into the pac12 is critical.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    @BallSacked to bring up the Oregon low tweak, they are a perfect example of a team that decided to get serious and invest. They weren't across the line until they put Nike behind it. Their marketing has been phenomenal and how they've spent the money plus on field results equals what we see today.

    But, An extra billion in the program wouldn't help them beat the buckeyes.

    Feeling pressure from expectations and knowing you'll be held accountable fuels success. Right now Oregon is the only program in the Pac that chooses to run like a do or die business. The results are predictable.

    UW, UCLA play politics. When we choose to play football, the money is there to win.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    I don't know if this is a Pac 12 Network problem or Comcast/xfinity problem but I get 3 Pac12 network stations on my cable. Often they are showing the exact same fucking programming? WTF? FMFYFE.

    I know, abundance.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited May 2015
    Doogles said:

    @BallSacked to bring up the Oregon low tweak, they are a perfect example of a team that decided to get serious and invest. They weren't across the line until they put Nike behind it. Their marketing has been phenomenal and how they've spent the money plus on field results equals what we see today.

    But, An extra billion in the program wouldn't help them beat the buckeyes.

    Feeling pressure from expectations and knowing you'll be held accountable fuels success. Right now Oregon is the only program in the Pac that chooses to run like a do or die business. The results are predictable.

    UW, UCLA play politics. When we choose to play football, the money is there to win.

    Not a tweak, an example of how money transforms a program. Which you agreed with.

    Then the rest of your incoherent post happened. The Strawman hyperbole of $1B and Ohio State was a speshul kind of fucktarded.

    If Peterson had an extra $1B to play with would Jonathon Smith be your OC? Are we done here?
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    So you truly believe the Pac doesn't have enough money to compete nationally?

    You would think we are fighting with 1 hand behind our back, but that simply isn't the case. Money matters, up to a certain point, but once you cross the baseline all that matters is getting it done on the field.

    We have private jets, arguably the best medical training staffs in the country, state of the art stadium, million dollar coaches, etc. It's about having enough to get the athletes to come to your school, and then developing them into winners.

    And as far as coaching salaries go, if you can't see that it's an old boys club racket, I can't help you. Do you think Sark is a better coach now that he's paid more? He's the same piece of shit with a higher price tag.

    There is enough here to keep quality coaches in place, which is ultimately what matters. The difference between us and the SEC is they aren't afraid to pay Nick Saban money that puts into question the integrity of what's important about college athletics. The cost benefit analysis shows Saban pays for himself. The Pac is smart enough to know this, problem is we like to keep up the appearance that school matters and balk at the price tag to save face for the academics.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    I never said can't compete. But I'm not arguing that more money doesn't help - that's your argument, verbatim. And it's a pretty stupid one.

    SEC teams dont hire inexperienced Jonathon Smiths or Jeff Ulbrichs as coordinators at 300K or so. They pay John Chavis and Muschamp 1.5M/yr. That doesn't matter? Thats just what we can observe, behind the scenes my guess is the support staff behind their coaches are much larger.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Doogles said:

    Fuck the money. You can only put so many juice bars in the locker room. Everybody in the Pac has enough money to be nationally successful ( maybe not the cougs). Just win. Beat the shit out of someone. Why should I care about the big or sec revenue streams? Why should I care about any other team in the Pacs? Washington has more than enough to win a championship.

    Motherfucking do it.

    More money = better coaches.

    Notice how the conference went from Wulff, Erickson, Stoops, and Embree to Leach, Graham, RichRod, and McIntyre in one year after the TV deal? Do you think the conference would've been better had they paid Carroll, Harbaugh, Kelly, etc. more?
    Even today look on the sidelines of your UW/UCLA/Arizonas vs that of an Alabama. There are loads more coaches and support staff in the SEC than Pac12. They have more money and can afford the additional payroll for that staff. Fuck they pay DCs over $1M/yr in the shit cheap southeast.

    I would also guess the pac12 puts more money into spring sports than the SEC. So they take in less and spend more outside of football. Getting more money into the pac12 is critical.
    Disagree.

    See the 2015 NCAA softball bracket for details.
  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited May 2015
    Flagged for asking me to google "Softball Brackets".
  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,459
    Gladstone said:

    Didn't Nick Holt have a 3 year/2.5m salary? Petersen's hands weren't tied by finances when he hired our fucktard of an OC.

    And a gold chain allowance provided by Bellevue Rare Coins
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,636 Founders Club
    TheGlove said:

    I don't know if this is a Pac 12 Network problem or Comcast/xfinity problem but I get 3 Pac12 network stations on my cable. Often they are showing the exact same fucking programming? WTF? FMFYFE.

    I know, abundance.

    Having 6-7 regional P 12 Networks is dumb.
  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,459

    TheGlove said:

    I don't know if this is a Pac 12 Network problem or Comcast/xfinity problem but I get 3 Pac12 network stations on my cable. Often they are showing the exact same fucking programming? WTF? FMFYFE.

    I know, abundance.

    Having 6-7 regional P 12 Networks Larry Scott is dumb Larry Scott.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    I thought the Pac was generating more revenue than the Big Maryland?

    As usual I'm talking out my ass and have no links or sources. If you want to bitch I'll be on Aurora with brass knucks in my backpack

    Sounds like the DawgNews propaganda machine is finally paying off.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    Can we kick fucking everyone out? They all suck.

    #FuckingDreckfest

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