Put a fork in Ackley....

d2d

... PLEASE !!!

Tequilla

I tend to agree - watching progress of guys in the minors in the OF should be closely observed

dhdawg

Yeah the time for that was last year

RoadDawg55

I thought he might turn the corner earlier this year after finishing strong last year. Ackley seems like the type of player who will thrive once he's playing for Tampa Bay or Oakland.

HFNY

Jack Z. is giving Ackley such a long leash because it was his first pick as Seattle GM and Ackley went 2nd in the draft.

Ackley is perilously close to 2,000 MLB at-bats and if you perform by then, it becomes highly doubtful you'll ever be more than a AAAA player (but one who has already made $7.3 mil). He has about 100 ABs left until he gets to 2,000.

Another question is who do the M's call up if the trade, send down (if he has options left), or DFA Ackley? James Jones for another lefty bat but who also provides elite speed (27 SBs for the M's last year against 1 CS)? Romero or even Guti could be other OF options too.

TierbsHsotBoobs

HFNY said:

Jack Z. is giving Ackley such a long leash because it was his first pick as Seattle GM and Ackley went 2nd in the draft.

Ackley is perilously close to 2,000 MLB at-bats and if you perform by then, it becomes highly doubtful you'll ever be more than a AAAA player (but one who has already made $7.3 mil). He has about 100 ABs left until he gets to 2,000.

Another question is who do the M's call up if the trade, send down (if he has options left), or DFA Ackley? James Jones for another lefty bat but who also provides elite speed (27 SBs for the M's last year against 1 CS)? Romero or even Guti could be other OF options too.

Calling Ackley AAAA is generous.

HFNY

He paid me a little bit of his $2.6 million salary this year to say that.

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

HFNY said:

Jack Z. is giving Ackley such a long leash because it was his first pick as Seattle GM and Ackley went 2nd in the draft.

Ackley is perilously close to 2,000 MLB at-bats and if you perform by then, it becomes highly doubtful you'll ever be more than a AAAA player (but one who has already made $7.3 mil). He has about 100 ABs left until he gets to 2,000.

Another question is who do the M's call up if the trade, send down (if he has options left), or DFA Ackley? James Jones for another lefty bat but who also provides elite speed (27 SBs for the M's last year against 1 CS)? Romero or even Guti could be other OF options too.

Calling Ackley AAAA is generous.

SteveInShelton

He was an exciting prospect, a 2B that hits and has the approach to the plate that he had in college is so valuable. Things went downhill quickly. First, they found out he couldn't play 2B so they made him a corner outfielder. He was never a power hitter so already his value went way down. His bat never materialized so really he has just become a shit tier player.

sarktastic

well, he DID win the game today for Race's mom.

dnc

SteveInShelton said:

He was an exciting prospect, a 2B that hits and has the approach to the plate that he had in college is so valuable. Things went downhill quickly. First, they found out he couldn't play 2B so they made him a corner outfielder. He was never a power hitter so already his value went way down. His bat never materialized so really he has just become a shit tier player.

Agree with most of this. I don't agree he couldn't play 2nd. He never looked super smooth out there but he made all the plays and his defensive numbers were very good. I think he was plenty adequate as a second baseman. As a left fielder he's pretty bad.

bananasnblondes

I still think back to the end of that season when the m's picked themselves up by their bootstraps to finish by winning 2 straight series and thus securing the #2 pick in the draft. Strausburg probably wouldnt have worked out here anyways.

dnc

bananasnblondes said:

I still think back to the end of that season when the m's picked themselves up by their bootstraps to finish by winning 2 straight series and thus securing the #2 pick in the draft. Strausburg probably wouldnt have worked out here anyways.

I thought for sure Strasburg was ours. That was the most Mariner week of all time.

bananasnblondes

dnc said:

bananasnblondes said:

I still think back to the end of that season when the m's picked themselves up by their bootstraps to finish by winning 2 straight series and thus securing the #2 pick in the draft. Strausburg probably wouldnt have worked out here anyways.

I thought for sure Strasburg was ours. That was the most Mariner week of all time.

All they had to do was lose, and they couldn't even do that right

dnc

bananasnblondes said:

dnc said:

bananasnblondes said:

I still think back to the end of that season when the m's picked themselves up by their bootstraps to finish by winning 2 straight series and thus securing the #2 pick in the draft. Strausburg probably wouldnt have worked out here anyways.

I thought for sure Strasburg was ours. That was the most Mariner week of all time.

All they had to do was lose, and they couldn't even do that right

Refuse To Loose (When We Need To Loose) Bitches!

HFNY

Ackley was supposed to be George Brett but with less power.

Now he's treading the line of a utility-player unless he turns it around fast.

bananasnblondes

HFNY said:

Ackley was supposed to be George Brett but with less power.

Now he's treading the line of a utility-player unless he turns it around fast.

The fine line between George Brett and Rich Amaral

ThomasFremont

dnc said:

SteveInShelton said:

He was an exciting prospect, a 2B that hits and has the approach to the plate that he had in college is so valuable. Things went downhill quickly. First, they found out he couldn't play 2B so they made him a corner outfielder. He was never a power hitter so already his value went way down. His bat never materialized so really he has just become a shit tier player.

Agree with most of this. I don't agree he couldn't play 2nd. He never looked super smooth out there but he made all the plays and his defensive numbers were very good. I think he was plenty adequate as a second baseman. As a left fielder he's pretty bad.

THIS.

They converted him to OF full time when they signed Cano...aka the best 2B in the game.

HFNY

Ackley is Oh fer tonight so far with 2 strike outs.

Starting to feel sorry for him though he's already earned more money than I'll ever see if I can't get out of my velour pants and this damn basement.

Tequilla

Are we all sure that Strasburg is all that great?

If you want too see how Bill Bavasi was a bad GM, go back and look at the 2005 MLB draft.

HFNY

Ackley has since then had a base hit and a great play in CF.

Zunino is having a good game, got a base hit on a curve ball with 2 strikes and then launched a HR into deep left center. I got a little chub.

DugtheDoog

bananasnblondes said:

HFNY said:

Ackley was supposed to be George Brett but with less power.

Now he's treading the line of a utility-player unless he turns it around fast.

The fine line between George Brett and Rich Amaral

Why do you hate Rich Amaral?

Joking aside, I don't know all the saber-metric shit between the two but I'm not sure why we had to keep Ackley over Saunders, other than the GMs ego.