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Fain's metamorphosis to the new Gasman is finally complete.

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    It is early, but the Mariners are the 2nd worst team in the AL both record wise and in run differential. The record is no fluke. The starting pitching after Felix is terrible. The bullpen massively overachieved last year. The offense isn't good either, and that is with Cruz being the best hitter in baseball so far.

    The expectations were always inflated. For one, this is the Mariners, one of the worst organizations in baseball. The expectation should always be TSIO until proven otherwise.
    It's going to get even worse once Cruz gets busted for PEDs.
  • SteveInSheltonSteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611

    It is early, but the Mariners are the 2nd worst team in the AL both record wise and in run differential. The record is no fluke. The starting pitching after Felix is terrible. The bullpen massively overachieved last year. The offense isn't good either, and that is with Cruz being the best hitter in baseball so far.

    The expectations were always inflated. For one, this is the Mariners, one of the worst organizations in baseball. The expectation should always be TSIO until proven otherwise.
    Cruz will certainly fall back to earth, but Cano and Seager will bounce back to being good hitters at some point too. Actually almost every hitter on the team is slumping right now. The offense should improve but yes the pitching is a disaster.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    As of a few days ago the M's had the 2nd worst SRS in baseball. Without Cruz they would probably be 5-20.

    They won tons of 4-3, 2-1, 3-2 type games last year because the pitching was the best in the league. While the offense is better, even slight regression in the pitching would push them back to average.

    The pitching has regressed to the mean, which is average and the offense is below average. The pitching could be above average the rest of the way but it won't matter. Even if they go 74-60, which is a 90 win clip, they'd finish with 85 wins and miss the playoffs.

    The Cruz move was a year too late. With him last year they may have made a KC-like run. Now the pitching has regressed to the mean and they have no shot to make the playoffs. They also will be fucked in the years ahead with Cruz and Cano aging and only getting worse.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    As of a few days ago the M's had the 2nd worst SRS in baseball. Without Cruz they would probably be 5-20.

    They won tons of 4-3, 2-1, 3-2 type games last year because the pitching was the best in the league. While the offense is better, even slight regression in the pitching would push them back to average.

    The pitching has regressed to the mean, which is average and the offense is below average. The pitching could be above average the rest of the way but it won't matter. Even if they go 74-60, which is a 90 win clip, they'd finish with 85 wins and miss the playoffs.

    The Cruz move was a year too late. With him last year they may have made a KC-like run. Now the pitching has regressed to the mean and they have no shot to make the playoffs. They also will be fucked in the years ahead with Cruz and Cano aging and only getting worse.

    Was going to flag for SRS but the rest of the post made sense.
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    Was going to flag for SRS but the rest of the post made sense.
    SRS Inferiority Guy
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,988
    Flagged for referencing that the mean is average
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,951 Founders Club
    The sad part is, the M's are the one team Dick is was critical of.

  • CheersWestDawgCheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    Holy shit this thread is full of dreck.

    Why?
    1) Mariners
    2) Doog Fain has been Dooging Fain longer than Gasman ever Dooged a Fain.
    3) TequillaFS
    4) Mariners
    5) Janet Reno
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,988
    Panicking about the Mariners right now is akin to panicking 2 games into a college football season or 3 games into a NFL season.

    I absolutely get some of the reasons many have pointed out here, but to not toss in the towel that this team still isn't the favorite to win the division isn't FS.

    But then again, I didn't have serious questions over OKC's ability to make the playoffs (going into a dumpster fire greater than any I could have ever imagined). And likewise, I didn't hold steady on the call that the Mariners would win 85 games last year and took a ton of heat in the process for that.

    Let's see where this team is by the end of the month before making too many bold predictions confirming that TSIO
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,823
    Tequilla said:

    Awfully warm out for October

    crisped
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Panicking about the Mariners right now is akin to panicking 2 games into a college football season or 3 games into a NFL season.

    I absolutely get some of the reasons many have pointed out here, but to not toss in the towel that this team still isn't the favorite to win the division isn't FS.

    But then again, I didn't have serious questions over OKC's ability to make the playoffs (going into a dumpster fire greater than any I could have ever imagined). And likewise, I didn't hold steady on the call that the Mariners would win 85 games last year and took a ton of heat in the process for that.

    Let's see where this team is by the end of the month before making too many bold predictions confirming that TSIO

    That 2014 season was magical for our Mariners.


    CHRIST
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,951 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Panicking about the Mariners right now is akin to panicking 2 games into a college football season or 3 games into a NFL season.

    I absolutely get some of the reasons many have pointed out here, but to not toss in the towel that this team still isn't the favorite to win the division isn't FS.

    But then again, I didn't have serious questions over OKC's ability to make the playoffs (going into a dumpster fire greater than any I could have ever imagined). And likewise, I didn't hold steady on the call that the Mariners would win 85 games last year and took a ton of heat in the process for that.

    Let's see where this team is by the end of the month before making too many bold predictions confirming that TSIO

    They have five days. Let's say a week. They need to have a 4-2 or 4-3 week (I'm not looking up their schedule). It's well into May now and patience is thin.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    They have five days. Let's say a week. They need to have a 4-2 or 4-3 week (I'm not looking up their schedule). It's well into May now and patience is thin.
    Going from under .500 to under .500 will clearly demonstrate that the Mariners are fine.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,988
    Still haven't played 20% of their schedule ... Memorial Day is always the first mile post of the season ... LIPO
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Bull Muse agrees.

    Says the Mariners are playing really well. Its just not showing up in the win-loss column yet.



    No need to get down on the team. They're trying really hard.

  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,951 Founders Club

    Going from under .500 to under .500 will clearly demonstrate that the Mariners are fine.
    I never thought they were capable of much more than a max of 92 wins, but if the goal is 83-90 wins and maybe losing in the divisional series, or the play-in gayme to appease the moron masses, they aren't done.
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