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Why Don't The Republicans move closer to the center on a couple of issues to WIN?

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.


    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.
    I don't think you know what "millennials" "pro choice" and "polls" mean.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited April 2015
    HFNY said:

    Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:

    salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.


    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.
    Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.

    Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.

    That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.

    Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:

    salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.


    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.
    Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.

    Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.

    That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.

    Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.

    Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.

    HTH
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited April 2015
    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    As long as MJ is classified a Schedule 1 narcotic - "with no medicinal value" - it will continue to be a federal issue.

    #privateprisonlobbygettinpaid #cottonfarmersaintgottimeforthat #bigpharmainittowinit #warondrugsforkidssake

    HTH
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    The repub needs to suck the base, that is why Rand looks like a bigger flip flopper than john Kerry... get the nomination, then they can waffle on every issue and be a giant pussy to get elected.

    With each election cycle the choices somehow get worse.

    Just build in a bunch of lines about hope, killing terrorists, a new economy where everyone will prosper and promise job growth and claim to reduce the deficit and no new taxes.

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    *deficits don't matter
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,794 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:

    salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.


    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.
    Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.

    Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.

    That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.

    Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.

    Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.

    HTH
    A lot of people say they are against abortion until they need to have one.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Doogles said:

    pawz said:

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:

    salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/

    d2d said:

    HFNY said:

    Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.


    d2d said:

    The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.

    Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.
    Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.

    Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.

    That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.

    Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.

    Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.

    HTH
    A lot of people say they are against abortion until they need to have one.
    ... then handed one of these on the way out... https://secure.info-komen.org/site/Donation2?df_id=15822&15822.donation=form1&s_src=MNSEM&iq_id=-VQ14-86016937-VQ6-{creative}-VQ7-susan g komen-VQ16-t

  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Thanks Damone!