Why Don't The Republicans move closer to the center on a couple of issues to WIN?
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Doogles said:
A lot of people say they are against abortion until they need to have one.pawz said:d2d said:
Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.HFNY said:Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:
salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/d2d said:
Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.HFNY said:Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.
d2d said:The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.
That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.
Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.
Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.
HTHAgreed. At least that's what your Mom told me.
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pawz said:d2d said:
Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.HFNY said:Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:
salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/d2d said:
Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.HFNY said:Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.
d2d said:The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.
That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.
Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.
Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.
HTHYou misunderstand me. I believe in the right to abortion until the fetus is 35, especially in your case.
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Sarked it up for yousarktastic said:*deficits are an overrated stat
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Pheeew! First time ever I'm thankful to be 37.d2d said:pawz said:d2d said:
Exactly what I've been reading. The assumption by the far left, that a majority of women want the right to an abortion, any time, any place, is not true. Abortion is a complicated subject. The poll I read polled women in college and out of college, a group with a high likelihood of voting. Over 60%, just under two thirds, said that they would not have an abortion. It is even higher if the woman has already had an abortion.HFNY said:Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:
salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/d2d said:
Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.HFNY said:Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.
d2d said:The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
Young women who have never been to college are much more likely to not vote, or vote democrat with little chance of persuading them otherwise.
That is why they have not changed their position. Because American women have changed THEIR opinion. The days of Gloria Steinem are gone. Just because the leftists at the UW have the biggest mouths, and constitute a majority of the faculty each with their own soapbox which they use daily, does not mean they hold the unanimous, or even majority, opinion.
Washington is a dark blue state. America is a center-right country. Unless you get across the Columbia River and then another several hundred miles, you will never realize that fact.
Here is the part you are missing, Beavis. Just because a woman may choose not to personally have an abortion, does not mean she won't vote for a "woman's right to choose". Most of the women I know fall in this category.
HTHYou misunderstand me. I believe in the right to abortion until the fetus is 35, especially in your case.
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Rather DIAFF than come closer , just 1/64" on the measuring tool closerHFNY said:-Abortion...why not move closer to pro-choice? If a woman wants to get rid of baby, she'll find a way. Read Walt Whitman's "Leaves Of Grass" for very troubling graphic detail.
-Medical Marijuana...the libertarian wing would say that smoking pot for medical purposes (or even for one's own enjoyment) doesn't tread on anyone else.
-Same Sex Marriage: my two dads are in favor it and preventing two people of the same sex to get married is a government intrusion into private relationships. Besides, too many young people are having kids out-of-wedlock because it is no longer shameful to be a single mom (I have no idea why a woman would want to subject herself to raising a kid without a spouse, totallyFS). -
Guess who's back, back again, puppy's back, tell some men.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Rather DIAFF than come closer , just 1/64" on the measuring tool closerHFNY said:-Abortion...why not move closer to pro-choice? If a woman wants to get rid of baby, she'll find a way. Read Walt Whitman's "Leaves Of Grass" for very troubling graphic detail.
-Medical Marijuana...the libertarian wing would say that smoking pot for medical purposes (or even for one's own enjoyment) doesn't tread on anyone else.
-Same Sex Marriage: my two dads are in favor it and preventing two people of the same sex to get married is a government intrusion into private relationships. Besides, too many young people are having kids out-of-wedlock because it is no longer shameful to be a single mom (I have no idea why a woman would want to subject herself to raising a kid without a spouse, totallyFS).
