Why Don't The Republicans move closer to the center on a couple of issues to WIN?
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Only the retards.PurpleThrobber said:
They don't 'for', they vote 'against'.sarktastic said:Who has ever voted for a President even once because of 'party platform'?
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The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
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Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.d2d said:
The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
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Who else are the right wing whack jobs going to vote for?dnc said:
No, but a big chunk of them just won't vote. The GOP has to maximize the religious right turnout. There are probably more small government libertarians than social conservatives, but the social conservatives turn out for candidates they believe in much better than the libertarians do. Hence, the GOP platform.HFNY said:That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.
But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?PurpleThrobber said:You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.
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"a big chunk of them just won't vote."TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Who else are the right wing whack jobs going to vote for?dnc said:
No, but a big chunk of them just won't vote. The GOP has to maximize the religious right turnout. There are probably more small government libertarians than social conservatives, but the social conservatives turn out for candidates they believe in much better than the libertarians do. Hence, the GOP platform.HFNY said:That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.
But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?PurpleThrobber said:You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.
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Citation needed.dnc said:
"a big chunk of them just won't vote."TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Who else are the right wing whack jobs going to vote for?dnc said:
No, but a big chunk of them just won't vote. The GOP has to maximize the religious right turnout. There are probably more small government libertarians than social conservatives, but the social conservatives turn out for candidates they believe in much better than the libertarians do. Hence, the GOP platform.HFNY said:That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.
But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?PurpleThrobber said:You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.
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lemonparty.orgTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Citation needed.dnc said:
"a big chunk of them just won't vote."TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Who else are the right wing whack jobs going to vote for?dnc said:
No, but a big chunk of them just won't vote. The GOP has to maximize the religious right turnout. There are probably more small government libertarians than social conservatives, but the social conservatives turn out for candidates they believe in much better than the libertarians do. Hence, the GOP platform.HFNY said:That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.
But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?PurpleThrobber said:You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.
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I'm hearing that a lot of democrats will sit home rather than vote for Hilary.
I don't believe them.
Republicans need to educate their base on the difference between a legislative and presidential election. Playing to the religious base works in congressional elections in the solid districts. The swing districts seem to change hands depending on how bad the president fucks up. Both Bush and Obama managed to run great campaign to get the house and senate into opposition hands by the end of their terms.
On a national election being a REAL conservative works without the overtly religious trappings. Moderates don't fare well, people just vote for the REAL democrat instead.
And let's not pretend that democrats don't have their own nut jobs that they have to pay a homage too. They just don't pay the price for it -
Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.HFNY said:Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.
d2d said:The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
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Could very well be true as it's pretty complicated now:
salon.com/2015/04/08/its_thousands_of_different_shades_of_gray_what_the_pro_choice_vs_pro_life_debate_gets_wrong_about_american_views_on_abortion/d2d said:
Actually, millennials are no longer pro choice according to polls.HFNY said:Yes but millenials don't really care as much about national vs. states issue as much as which presidential candidates think like them.
d2d said:The national polling doesn't agree with you re abortion, plus Race is right. Marriage is a State issue and one for the courts. So are marijuana laws.
