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Why Don't The Republicans move closer to the center on a couple of issues to WIN?

HFNY
HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
edited April 2015 in Tug Tavern
-Abortion...why not move closer to pro-choice? If a woman wants to get rid of baby, she'll find a way. Read Walt Whitman's "Leaves Of Grass" for very troubling graphic detail.

-Medical Marijuana...the libertarian wing would say that smoking pot for medical purposes (or even for one's own enjoyment) doesn't tread on anyone else.

-Same Sex Marriage: my two dads are in favor it and preventing two people of the same sex to get married is a government intrusion into private relationships. Besides, too many young people are having kids out-of-wedlock because it is no longer shameful to be a single mom (I have no idea why a woman would want to subject herself to raising a kid without a spouse, totallyFS).
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Because the people that are against those things vote hard.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Three issues a president doesn't effect. The Obama administration has fought medical mj and states legalizing it. Abortion isn't going away. Gay marriage is being decided by courts.

    Republicans should run on the economy and defense. Democrats would love to run on abortion
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    HFNY said:

    -Abortion...why not move closer to pro-choice? If a woman wants to get rid of baby, she'll find a way. Read Walt Whitman's "Leaves Of Grass" for very troubling graphic detail.

    -Medical Marijuana...the libertarian wing would say that smoking pot for medical purposes (or even for one's own enjoyment) doesn't tread on anyone else.

    -Same Sex Marriage: my two dads are in favor it and preventing two people of the same sex to get married is a government intrusion into private relationships. Besides, too many young people are having kids out-of-wedlock because it is no longer shameful to be a single mom (I have no idea why a woman would want to subject herself to raising a kid without a spouse, totallyFS).

    causation?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
    Probably correlation AND causation.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,806 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2015
    You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.

    Same with abortion.

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Who has ever voted for a President even once because of 'party platform'?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,806 Standard Supporter

    Who has ever voted for a President even once because of 'party platform'?

    They don't 'for', they vote 'against'.

    HTH
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,587
    That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.

    But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?

    You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.

    Same with abortion.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    HFNY said:

    That's what sucks, the libertarian / small government wing loses out to the religious right.

    But will the Religious Right vote for Hillary or Bill DeClownio over a Republican who says they don't care about same-sex marriage either way?


    You will NEVER get the GOP to make same-sex marriage part of their platform. They absolutely require the right wing to vote their direction. They could probably sneak the medical MJ into the platform (or at least not actively oppose it) but not a chance in hell the christians with a small 'c' would go for same-sex. Never.

    Same with abortion.

    No, but a big chunk of them just won't vote. The GOP has to maximize the religious right turnout. There are probably more small government libertarians than social conservatives, but the social conservatives turn out for candidates they believe in much better than the libertarians do. Hence, the GOP platform.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    edited April 2015
    I had no idea Leaves of Grass was an abortion how-to manual.

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