Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

Jimmy Graham

PurpleBaze
PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,582 Founders Club
Selling the couch in NOLA, buying new couch in Seattle.
«134

Comments

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Unger: Door. Couch. Out.

    Wow this is a crazy deal. Mort says it includes either Seattles 15 or 16 first rounder and multiple other picks.

    Not really sure what to make of it. Great pickup, or Percy Harvin 2.0?
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,582 Founders Club
    Graham is decent, but a little too full of himself... Should fit in with the Seahawks.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Superbowl or bust now. Graham is Julius Thomas but has a longer track record of production. Best receiver Seattle has had since Carroll has been here. Unger is broken now anyways, he's not even close to the same player he once was.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    Unger + 1st is roughly comparable in cap space to Graham + 4th ... if my very high level understanding of the cap is correct, I believe when you trade someone in Graham's position where you gave a sizable signing bonus, I believe it turns into an accelerated cap hit on New Orleans' books.

    From a pure $$$ standpoint, this is a no brainer for the Hawks.

    And as I saw someone say on Twitter, the cost for Graham was less than what it would have taken to re-sign Maxwell ... which is crazy IMO.
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    Tequilla said:

    Unger + 1st is roughly comparable in cap space to Graham + 4th ... if my very high level understanding of the cap is correct, I believe when you trade someone in Graham's position where you gave a sizable signing bonus, I believe it turns into an accelerated cap hit on New Orleans' books.

    From a pure $$$ standpoint, this is a no brainer for the Hawks.

    And as I saw someone say on Twitter, the cost for Graham was less than what it would have taken to re-sign Maxwell ... which is crazy IMO.

    The money here is fantastic. They are trying to restructure his deal to save even more, making the cap hit combined with Unger leaving something like $3.3 million. That little of money for a superstar receiving target. The Saints are saving only like $2 million in cap room from trading him. They went from franchise tagging him last year to trading him this year. What a dumpster fire.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    As always, you want to be the team with the smart organization and management ... allows you to continuously prey on those that aren't quite as smart and forward looking.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    edited March 2015
    The Saints take on 9 Million in dead money with this trade too, OUCH...

    Graham was paid 13mil last year, so deal is now 3 years at 27. The cap number likely won't be a big deal at all for his talent, plus they can restructure to save more as @SteveInShelton pointed out.

    EDIT (Graham Contract Numbers for Hawks):

    Graham will count 8mil this year, 9 in 2016, and 10 in 2017. The good news is that they can cut him at anytime with no cap ramifications. In total they lost about 6.5 mil in cap space this year with this move.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    As another person said on Twitter, the cost for Graham per year is less than Julius Thomas. Who would you rather have?