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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    If this Philly team is what it takes to kill the stat nerd mythos once and for all, I'll take it. Between that and Sacramento's three coach dreckfest of a season. But holy fuckus, just move the team to Seattle already and put Philly out of its misery.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,416 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2015

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Portland's season is over.

    Care to elaborate on that?
    They will be lucky to win a round. They aren't winning three.
    I don't see them winning a series against Golden State, Memphis, or San Antonio once they hit the next gear. Probably aren't beating OKC in a series. Coin flips probably against Dallas and and the Clippers. Should be favorites against Houston.

    Agree that winning a round (like they did last year) is probably the high water mark for them. Next step would be actually being competitive in the second round.
    That's how I see it. I think Houston is improved from last year though and are better than Portland.
    I like the KJ Mcdaniels move. Not sure where he plays yet but he is a fucking freak.
    Houston has some depth. Josh Smith, Corey Brewer, and now McDonald added during the year.

    They now have some options on the wing and at the 4. They are still likely not a factor, but they are somewhat intriguing.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Portland's season is over.

    Care to elaborate on that?
    They will be lucky to win a round. They aren't winning three.
    I don't see them winning a series against Golden State, Memphis, or San Antonio once they hit the next gear. Probably aren't beating OKC in a series. Coin flips probably against Dallas and and the Clippers. Should be favorites against Houston.

    Agree that winning a round (like they did last year) is probably the high water mark for them. Next step would be actually being competitive in the second round.
    That's how I see it. I think Houston is improved from last year though and are better than Portland.
    I like the KJ Mcdaniels move. Not sure where he plays yet but he is a fucking freak.
    Houston has some depth. Josh Smith, Corey Brewer, and now McDonald added during the year.

    They now have some options on the wing and at the 4. They are still likely not a factor, but they are somewhat intriguing.
    I just don't trust them to play defense ... until I see it when it matters, I'm not going to say that they are worth a shit.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,416 Standard Supporter

    If this Philly team is what it takes to kill the stat nerd mythos once and for all, I'll take it. Between that and Sacramento's three coach dreckfest of a season. But holy fuckus, just move the team to Seattle already and put Philly out of its misery.

    Completely agree about analytical overload. It's jumped the shark.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Miami aint doing shit. Yeah that might win a series but that team looks an awful lot like the Lakers did a few years ago. Good move for them for now but they aren't winning a title and they are going to suck ass in a few years.

    I love how those arrogant cunts were saying Lebron should thank them. Even with Deng, they went from being a title contender 4 years in a row to a below 500 team immediately.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,231
    The Heat have had a lot of injuries ... Bosh went to the hospital tonight I heard on my way home ... Wade's a shell of himself ... Bosh has a few good years left in him. Dragic is good and should help create an easier load on both Bosh and Wade.

    The biggest hole that has been left by LBJ leaving Miami was that he was the primary ball handler. They didn't have anybody on the roster that could create for others. They have that now in Dragic.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,733
    The only offseason move by the Suns was signing IT. Signing him for 4 years at $27MM was a great move. Unfortunately, Dragic never really adjusted. In fact, Dragic never really adjusted to the Suns signing Beldsoe the year before. He went off last year only after Bledsoe got hurt.

    Dragic is a shoot-first player. Always has been. Sure he picks up some assists, but for a guy who thinks of himself as a point guard, setting up his teammates is not a strength.

    Losing IT is going to hurt the Suns in the short term. We'll see how Goodwin and Bullock fill in. They are both big guards with lots of physical talent, but it has not been proven in the NBA.

    IMO, the Sun's starting 5 got better and younger, the bench got weaker. Their salary cap position, however, got a lot better.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,416 Standard Supporter
    Isaiah has beaten the odds and become a good NBA player. The problem is, he is 5'8" and will always be a defensive liability. It's tough to win in the NBA with him as your PG.

    I don't think trading IT was a bad move by the Suns. They don't need any more offense. Bledsoe, Knight, Morris, and Green can all fill it up. Dumping IT's salary for Thonrton's expiring and getting Cleveland's first round pick doesn't look great, but it could pay off in a future move. Even if the Suns made the playoffs, they were still irrelevant and aren't doing anything until they add to their roster.

    The Suns fucked up getting three PG's and upsetting all three at different times. I doubt anyone will trust their front office anymore. That's the biggest issue and downside of the moves today.
  • HuskiesADW
    HuskiesADW Member Posts: 141
    Phillies GM is smart in the way he deals. MCW can't shoot and puts up stats on a terrible team. Why not offload him for a draft pick? You always want to capitalize on a player when their value is at their highest. They have had over a year to evaluate MCW so instead of keeping him you trade him to get some asset in return (in this case a first round pick).

    With the amount of draft picks they have in the next couple of drafts they can easily use them to acquire an all-star caliber player(s). What they have been banking on is drafting the next superstar and unfortunately the last two drafts didn't have an obvious one. Wiggins is good but I don't think he will be a superstar by an means. He will play in a couple of all star games but that is about it.

    If they can get Mudiay (spelling?) in this upcoming draft we might see the Sixers begin to actually build their roster back up as they will have a very good young piece to build around. Drafting Okafor would also be a good move but I just don't see the hype when I watch him play at Duke. He is going to have a long career in the NBA but I just don't see the comparisons to Duncan that many throw out there...

    Otherwise I like what the Suns did as they balance out their roster and pick up Knight who I think fits their team a little better than Dragic. Bledsoe/Dragic are similar in the way they play as both like to push the fast break, drive to the rim and are below average shooters from outside. Knight is a very good shooter and will provide Phoenix with a different look. He is also much younger and I would say has better potential down the road (good for Phoenix's young core of players).
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566

    Phillies GM is smart in the way he deals. MCW can't shoot and puts up stats on a terrible team. Why not offload him for a draft pick? You always want to capitalize on a player when their value is at their highest. They have had over a year to evaluate MCW so instead of keeping him you trade him to get some asset in return (in this case a first round pick).

    With the amount of draft picks they have in the next couple of drafts they can easily use them to acquire an all-star caliber player(s). What they have been banking on is drafting the next superstar and unfortunately the last two drafts didn't have an obvious one. Wiggins is good but I don't think he will be a superstar by an means. He will play in a couple of all star games but that is about it.

    If they can get Mudiay (spelling?) in this upcoming draft we might see the Sixers begin to actually build their roster back up as they will have a very good young piece to build around. Drafting Okafor would also be a good move but I just don't see the hype when I watch him play at Duke. He is going to have a long career in the NBA but I just don't see the comparisons to Duncan that many throw out there...

    Otherwise I like what the Suns did as they balance out their roster and pick up Knight who I think fits their team a little better than Dragic. Bledsoe/Dragic are similar in the way they play as both like to push the fast break, drive to the rim and are below average shooters from outside. Knight is a very good shooter and will provide Phoenix with a different look. He is also much younger and I would say has better potential down the road (good for Phoenix's young core of players).

    The problem with the GM's strategy, is that you only have a 1/4 chance of hitting number 1 to begin with. On top of that, A Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaq, Lebron, Durant, type players come around once every 5-6 years. So, basic math is telling me that Philly could possibly tank the next 20 years before they get that magical draft icon. That's Philly's only hope, because they are not going to get free agents to want to come there, because there isn't anybody else to build around.